ah man there you go again.

The government is UNION without the title, they vote in their own pay, their own benefits etc. thats why they get so many holidays off, have great pay, etc etc. the military is a union also without the title. the militarys contract is voted on by the government, so their pay, their benefits etc are in a contract. no government employee is going to vote down a chance to get themselves a raise.

 

So then explain to me why the military has never gone on strike!

 

they are government employees, Theres no way the military could strike for better pay/benefits all their pay/benefits are voted on by the government for them. I think youre missing what im saying, they are union without the title/contract negotiations. They cant strike cause they arent legally a union and theres a law that prohibits them from forming a union.

 

The military cannot strike. If we did there is this thing called the UCMJ that allows our commands to punish us (pay reduction, confinement, extra duties, etc) up to time in the brig (military prison). The living conditions and pay typically do suck for enlisted service members and most barracks are in pretty lousy condition because the government does not provide enough funding to pay us, retain us, and make repairs to the facilities we live and work in...wall maybe the Airforce can, they have the biggest budget.

The military strikes by not reenlisting due to pay, quality of life, morale, living conditions or being kicked out early due to the myriad of issues plaguing society like mental health and physical issues. I deal with a lot of the latter these days and it is amazing how many service members don't make it past their first year of service. I digress...

I have an opinion on unions that is based on a case-by-case basis. Some career fields that are more demanding like fireman and police put in exceptionally hard labor that is also tough on their bodies. They require sacrifice and an exceptionally high degree of danger and those field should be represented by a union to advocate for them and ensure just compensation for what they do because they can be thankless jobs...especially these days (I thank you!). There are other fields as well, but I wont bother listing them all, just making an example.

In my opinion, the demands from the UAW are unreasonable. The one thing I concur with the manufactures on is I wouldn't want to reinstitute a pension plan. No employer wants that deal which is why most businesses offer 401k with matching contributions based on a percentage of pay. Heck even the military overhauled the retirement system which is a blend of TSP (think 401k matching contributions) and a reduced pension plan because it ate up too much of services' budget. Pension plans are typically not sustainable for most employers because they are expensive!

 

Thanks for a well written post.

 

Looks like they walked out of the Kentucky plant. No more new Super Duty’s for awhile …

 

Yeah, the burger flippers won't be installing the wrong lug wrenches for a while, or bad CP4's.

 

This may be a shocker to some of you, but there are a lot of unions in government.

 

yes there is, got to maximize wages paid with tax money. Teachers are a huge one.

 

could be over in a day if ford presents an offer that the leadership is willing to put up for a vote

 

Not that I disagree with you and many of your points but I do on the subject of the military aspect, I don't know anybody who joins the military. Thanking they're going to become rich.

But if you want to use that is an example. Should Ford pay for their housing and food also and cut the base salary? Is that what you're inputting?

Your argument here is not Apple's apples by any stretched imagination.

​​​​​ Our boy been in the military now two years. As far as I know he is teaching them how to fly drones.

 

could be, but let’s hope not. Let them chew through their strike money and then sweat.

 

The problem that needs addressing is the fact that these particular union workers are being paid middle class wages for a lower class job already. When the requirements for a skillset are being a high school graduate or GED holder and attaining nothing more than on the job training you are lower class. You want middle class compensation and benefits then obtain a middle class skillset.

 

I didn’t know that high school graduate was a requirement. Has that been in place for long?

 

The job descriptions and applications I looked over for UAW positions did at minimum require a diploma or GED. Not sure when it was implemented as ive never looked into it until now.