With a strike upon us ....
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Rent, or the combination of property taxes + mortgage interest + sufficient insurance to cover the collateral for the lender, would easily and entirely swallow the entirety of 32K/year in California for a very modest 1,200 square foot home, leaving not a dollar to eat with, nevermind the fuel costs to commute to the job in order to get the 32K to pay for the housing.
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and, the other side of the "same" coin, is that CEOs "think" that they "deserve" their $$$$$$ too.... 
There is ACTUALLY, NO difference... 
This not deserving a higher pay, is a made up problem, what ISN'T "DESERVED" IS THE HUGE PROFITS made from sending these good paying jobs elsewhere, and the average worker can't afford to buy the product that is "priced" for the higher pay scale that Has disappeared, with the higher payed jobs moved to cheaper places.... THAT, is actually THE real "PROBLEM" More and more of these "good" paying jobs have "disappeared". Just IMO probably ... 
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and... There you go... THAT is why UNIONS exist... People do "think" that way. and, the other side of the "same" coin, is that CEOs "think" that they "deserve" their $$$$$$ too.... There is ACTUALLY, NO difference... This not deserving a higher pay, is a made up problem, what ISN'T "DESERVED" IS THE HUGE PROFITS made from sending these good paying jobs elsewhere, and the average worker can't afford to buy the product that is "priced" for the higher pay scale that Has disappeared, with the higher payed jobs moved to cheaper places.... THAT, is actually THE real "PROBLEM" More and more of these "good" paying jobs have "disappeared". Just IMO probably ...
and, the other side of the "same" coin, is that CEOs "think" that they "deserve" their $$$$$$ too.... There is ACTUALLY, NO difference... This not deserving a higher pay, is a made up problem, what ISN'T "DESERVED" IS THE HUGE PROFITS made from sending these good paying jobs elsewhere, and the average worker can't afford to buy the product that is "priced" for the higher pay scale that Has disappeared, with the higher payed jobs moved to cheaper places.... THAT, is actually THE real "PROBLEM" More and more of these "good" paying jobs have "disappeared". Just IMO probably ... 
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Whats a real kicker is when you take the world as a whole the U.S. minimum wage full time worker is in the highest income bracket by thousands of dollars. I dont blame any company in a capitalistic environment for outsourcing the primitive labor jobs that can be done by anyone with an IQ over 80.
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JMO but they will never get the 32hr work week. That is just a giveaway. You need to be careful about COLA, we had a contract once and it was a 2 way COLA. We lost .75 an hour one week and took years to make it back up.
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Shawn Fein, UAW President, states no new strikes today (Friday the 13th of October), but future strikes will now occur without notice, and without waiting until next Friday.
Ford reported yesterday that the strike at KTP is going to negatively impact other assembly plants that rely on some parts stamped at KTP (Sheffield Ohio and Louisville Assembly Plant), as well as curtail and/or idle the component plants that supply powertrain assemblies to KTP:
And on the supplied stamped parts, the following plants will also be effected by the strike at KTP, according to Ford:
Ford reported yesterday that the strike at KTP is going to negatively impact other assembly plants that rely on some parts stamped at KTP (Sheffield Ohio and Louisville Assembly Plant), as well as curtail and/or idle the component plants that supply powertrain assemblies to KTP:
- 10R140, 6R140, and 6R100 transmissions at Sharonville in Cincinnati Ohio
- Lincoln Navigator / Ford Expedition transmissions in Livonia Michigan
- Sterling Axles in Sterling Heights
- 7.3L and 6.8L V8 gas engines in Windsor, Canada
- 6.7L diesel engines in Chihuahua, Mexico
- 2.0L, 2.3L, & 3.5L EcoBoost gas engines at Cleveland Engine Plant # 1 in Brook Park, Ohio (for Navigator/Expedition)
And on the supplied stamped parts, the following plants will also be effected by the strike at KTP, according to Ford:
- Michigan Assembly Plant and Integral Stamping in Wayne
- Dearborn Stamping Plant in Dearborn
- Buffalo Stamping Plant in Buffalo, New York
- Chicago Stamping Plant in Chicago Heights, Illinois
- Rawsonville Components Plant in Ypsilanti
- Dearborn Diversified Manufacturing Plant in Dearborn
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The difference is the union only has so much strike money. A lot of states won’t allow you to draw unemployment because you want to strike. But if the union can cause the employer to have to shut down all those workers get state unemployment.
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I saw one news clip interviewing a UAW worker who has 5 kids, the $500 a week wasn't going to keep him going for too long. He mentioned that he was now considering pursuing a job as a welder.
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That UI compensation equates to even less per week than they get for striking. I can't imagine all of those people can carry on for long at $500/week. I wonder how many have already had to move on to other jobs.
I saw one news clip interviewing a UAW worker who has 5 kids, the $500 a week wasn't going to keep him going for too long. He mentioned that he was now considering pursuing a job as a welder.
I saw one news clip interviewing a UAW worker who has 5 kids, the $500 a week wasn't going to keep him going for too long. He mentioned that he was now considering pursuing a job as a welder.
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That UI compensation equates to even less per week than they get for striking. I can't imagine all of those people can carry on for long at $500/week. I wonder how many have already had to move on to other jobs.
I saw one news clip interviewing a UAW worker who has 5 kids, the $500 a week wasn't going to keep him going for too long. He mentioned that he was now considering pursuing a job as a welder.
I saw one news clip interviewing a UAW worker who has 5 kids, the $500 a week wasn't going to keep him going for too long. He mentioned that he was now considering pursuing a job as a welder.
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UI is state regulated and a strange system. I worked in a few 2 man shops, owner was responsible and paid a set rate that would vary. I asked the boss if he received the money back the years we didn't have lay off. Nope ins kept it. We had a bad winter one year and the next rate was set at 70% my wage. Boss called number and told them if it was 70 we were closing the next day, they came back with a better rate. That was then, not sure about now.
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UI is state regulated and a strange system. I worked in a few 2 man shops, owner was responsible and paid a set rate that would vary. I asked the boss if he received the money back the years we didn't have lay off. Nope ins kept it. We had a bad winter one year and the next rate was set at 70% my wage. Boss called number and told them if it was 70 we were closing the next day, they came back with a better rate. That was then, not sure about now.