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Old Dec 7, 2021 | 06:21 AM
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Yeah, Jeff, that's exactly what started happening to mine. Is yours still under warranty? ATOTO replaced mine with a Gen2, after some haggling.

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Old Dec 7, 2021 | 06:51 AM
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Jeff, this may be long shot, but is there any way to recalibrate the touch screen? Usually during this calibration phase, there will be a series of points around the screen in order to let the screen know where the buttons are at.

Perhaps the top portion of the screen is no longer within the range of the touchscreen.

I have the A6 Pro, so my suggestion may not even be possible as I am not familiar with the S8.

I hope you get the issue resolved easily.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2021 | 08:59 AM
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I have an A6 and a couple times it has lost gps reception. Soft reset and power cycle didn't help, but unplugging it to power it down succesfully did a hard reset/power off. GPS came back right away.

That might help with the soft buttons as well?
I haven't been able to find the fuse that supplies battery power to the radio, but that would probably be an easier soulution. Its probably on the courtesy light circuit.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2021 | 09:01 PM
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That might have worked, kbeefy. Sous, I punted and did not look for the calibration option, and instead went ahead with the factory reset. Wanted to have a clean slate after a year of use. The buttons work again, thankfully.

I might have caused this partial freeze with the TC unlock experiment of the last couple of days. There were two PCM resets during that effort - might have scrambled some logic in the radio.

Not sure if I have a warrantee on this S8. When I registered for it, I got an email from ATOTO saying I had purchased it through an unauthorized source, and no warrantee would be approved. I have not pursued it to see if I could clear that up. The S8, model S8G2B73M, was an Amazon warehouse deal.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 12:28 PM
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Just a little update & thread bump....
I'm struggling to get a couple of apps to load on the S8pro, most importantly Planet Rock! It just won't load completely, I've tried using the WiFi dongle that we use when away in the 5th wheel, hotspot from my phone & connected to the home WiFi. Has anyone else has problems with specific apps?
On the plus side I have loaded Sygic navigation which is very similar to Google Maps but with the option of being able to add size & weight for better routing with the trailer.
I've also got TP running on start up with the Ford specific PID's (once I'd remembered where to find them.....)



Still need to find a way to change the temperature from °C to °F as it doesn't show as a configuration option.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 12:55 PM
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Rob, I commend your tenacity to get TP working right. That is why I said forget it and went to FSL years ago. Too many little quirks and settings that I just couldn't dial in.

Sygic, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the tip.

As for loading apps, no problems here. But, I haven't loaded any apps since the first round during initial setup. You are not referring to 93.3 The Planet by chance are you?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 01:51 PM
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Rob, I commend your tenacity to get TP working right. That is why I said forget it and went to FSL years ago. Too many little quirks and settings that I just couldn't dial in.

Sygic, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the tip.

As for loading apps, no problems here. But, I haven't loaded any apps since the first round during initial setup. You are not referring to 93.3 The Planet by chance are you?
No Planet Rock is a radio station that I listen to on DAB (I think that's like the European version of Sirius, works on a digital signal rather than analogue) I have an add on DAB for the Atoto but it uses a stick to the windshield antenna, a wired box & needs it's own app to run it, also DAB as a platform isn't great, over the years it's been going the signal strength has declined & as they say "it ain't what it used to be"
I use the app through my phone & Bluetooth to the head units in my other vehicles so I can continue to listen this way thanks to the dual Bluetooth.
If you like rock music both classic & new, give it a try, I know it works in the USA as they play requests from listeners there too.
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:17 PM
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^^^This is the removed OEM harness adapter now mated to the ATOTO A6 harness. The fuse holder sticking out the side of the wire loom is accessory 12v to the rear view camera. This allows me to run the video cable and the power wire all the way from the front the dashboard to the camera mounted to the rear bumper. This method allows me to switch to the rear camera view at any speed, in any direction and at any time as long as the ignition is on. I prefer it this way, especially with my ZF6 manual transmission. Also, to the right of the wire harness is the solder sleeves I used in order to attach the wires together. The accessory 12v wire got an extra dose of adhesive lined heat shrink just because.
Sous, was looking back at something else in the thread and came across this note and wanted clarification.

With my A6 Pro install the backup camera only comes on in reverse. I haven't found a way to open backup camera without shifting into reverse and I think it would require a separate switch providing power to the camera to make it come on without reverse.

Do you not have yours connected to the rear camera input and reverse circuit at all? Or have you found some way to make it come on with reverse and on demand?

I prefer having it come automatically when I shift into reverse over having to select a camera feed, but if you've got it doing both it may be something I want to change next time I go into the dash. Only way I can think of to make it do both is to add a switch to power the camera and a diode to prevent feeding current into the reverse light circuit.

It's probably more likely that I'll add a second rear camera up around the third brake light than worry too much about making the backup camera do both.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by josht
Sous, was looking back at something else in the thread and came across this note and wanted clarification.

With my A6 Pro install the backup camera only comes on in reverse. I haven't found a way to open backup camera without shifting into reverse and I think it would require a separate switch providing power to the camera to make it come on without reverse.

Do you not have yours connected to the rear camera input and reverse circuit at all? Or have you found some way to make it come on with reverse and on demand?

I prefer having it come automatically when I shift into reverse over having to select a camera feed, but if you've got it doing both it may be something I want to change next time I go into the dash. Only way I can think of to make it do both is to add a switch to power the camera and a diode to prevent feeding current into the reverse light circuit.

It's probably more likely that I'll add a second rear camera up around the third brake light than worry too much about making the backup camera do both.
Just jumping in here......the camera needs 12v, the Toto needs a 12v signal to turn on "rear camera view" these can be independent, by powering the camera from a "key on" source you can then select the camera from your menu to be on when you wish. This is convenient if perhaps using the camera for rear view on a 5th wheel.
The reverse signal will still switch the camera on regardless of what else you're viewing.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 02:42 PM
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Thanks for jumping in Rob.

Josh, my signal is next to nothing where we are camped and we are out sightseeing, so I'll make this quick.

I have the rear view camera wired into the accessory on wire in the back of the head unit. I have the yellow RCA video plugged into one of the video in ports. I use the ATOTO integrated app called "AUX". It is red and has a picture of RCA style connection on it and is the first app in the top left.

I selected this input so it would be easy for me to switch to the camera view.

This method of powering up and selecting the camera works well for a ZF6 truck that spends a lot of time in neutral instead of reverse. Although, since going to a 5th wheel trailer, I don't use it much anymore. Only when I am hooking up to a utility trailer or backing up our long driveway.

Hopefully Rob and I have addressed your concerns adequately.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:00 PM
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I understand that. I've currently got mine installed with camera power coming from backup light circuit at tail light. Video cable running to cab has an extra conductor for 12v signal and that is tied to the Atoto trigger wire at the front. My rear camera has LEDs (not great, but they're there) so I don't want it on all the time the truck is on, but being able to turn it on and check at any time would be nice.

With the rear camera connected to the rear camera port of the Atoto, I haven't found a way to view it without being in reverse. If I supplied it with 12v keyed power, the Atoto would be locked on reverse cam any time the key is on. I could select it if connected to one of the other video in ports, but then I wouldn't have the automatic backup camera functionality I'd have to manually open the camera any time I put the truck into reverse.

The only way that I can think of to accomplish that, not having the camera on all the time, and keeping the automatic backup functionality would be to have two power sources. One switched on the dash, the other from the reverse light circuit. The switch would power the camera and trigger the Atoto into showing reverse, with switch off it would act as normal backup camera. The one from the reverse light circuit would require a diode to prevent the switched power from feeding into the reverse light circuit and turning on the backup lights.

I'm actually thinking this would be a better solution for a rear facing camera for my purposes anyway.

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Higher mounted, better view, and be able to check on things in the bed without turning around. Actually if I get the tonneau cover I want and it is open I'd need something like this to keep an eye on things in the bed since it would block the back window. This for checking things behind me and the rear camera for trailer hookups and general backing up.

 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:06 PM
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Your concerns and proposed path to success sound accurate to me.

I like that 3rd brake light camera and if we ever install a Goosebox instead of the AUH, that is the camera I will switch to.

1st world problems are great problems to have my friend.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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Thanks for jumping in Rob.

Josh, my signal is next to nothing where we are camped and we are out sightseeing, so I'll make this quick.

I have the rear view camera wired into the accessory on wire in the back of the head unit. I have the yellow RCA video plugged into one of the video in ports. I use the ATOTO integrated app called "AUX". It is red and has a picture of RCA style connection on it and is the first app in the top left.

I selected this input so it would be easy for me to switch to the camera view.

This method of powering up and selecting the camera works well for a ZF6 truck that spends a lot of time in neutral instead of reverse. Although, since going to a 5th wheel trailer, I don't use it much anymore. Only when I am hooking up to a utility trailer or backing up our long driveway.

Hopefully Rob and I have addressed your concerns adequately.
All good, I saw that and wanted to ask while I was thinking about it. Did not expect an immediate answer or even anything soon. Hope you are enjoying your trip, no signal makes it sound like a good place to be camping.

Yes, you did what I thought you did. I won't be spending much time in neutral wanting to look at the backup camera, so that isn't really an issue.

I'll have to take another look at my unit. I think that app was what I used briefly for viewing the backup camera when I had the old one plugged into one of the other video in ports. At the time I didn't have a trigger wire for the Atoto, but fixed that when installing the new camera.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by josht
I understand that. I've currently got mine installed with camera power coming from backup light circuit at tail light. Video cable running to cab has an extra conductor for 12v signal and that is tied to the Atoto trigger wire at the front. My rear camera has LEDs (not great, but they're there) so I don't want it on all the time the truck is on, but being able to turn it on and check at any time would be nice.

With the rear camera connected to the rear camera port of the Atoto, I haven't found a way to view it without being in reverse. If I supplied it with 12v keyed power, the Atoto would be locked on reverse cam any time the key is on. I could select it if connected to one of the other video in ports, but then I wouldn't have the automatic backup camera functionality I'd have to manually open the camera any time I put the truck into reverse.

The only way that I can think of to accomplish that, not having the camera on all the time, and keeping the automatic backup functionality would be to have two power sources. One switched on the dash, the other from the reverse light circuit. The switch would power the camera and trigger the Atoto into showing reverse, with switch off it would act as normal backup camera. The one from the reverse light circuit would require a diode to prevent the switched power from feeding into the reverse light circuit and turning on the backup lights.

I'm actually thinking this would be a better solution for a rear facing camera for my purposes anyway.

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Higher mounted, better view, and be able to check on things in the bed without turning around. Actually if I get the tonneau cover I want and it is open I'd need something like this to keep an eye on things in the bed since it would block the back window. This for checking things behind me and the rear camera for trailer hookups and general backing up.
I mounted my rear camera on my headache rack about where the 3rd brake light would be which is a big help lining up my GN hitch. I then bought a Vantop dashcam and mounted it's camera in the same area. The dashcam straps onto your rearview mirror and replaces it with the view out the rear camera. It also records in 2K front and back, or 4K front 1K back. I keep it on the 2K front and back setting and whenever my truck is running, it records both. Look at some of the videos on my YouTube channel to see the clarity. They are the short ones. My channel is in my signature. I moved the camera for my stereo to the rear of my GN trailer, but need to replace the cable. I bought several extra cameras so I could switch between views from the top of the goose neck (to monitor the load and traffic along side the trailer) and to the rear of the trailer for backing up in tight quarters.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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Sounds like you got a lot of cameras. I can understand why you would need all of that as well as the clarity and recording for your hotshot driving, I think it's a little overkill for my purposes.

I'd like to keep all mine (1 right now) on the Atoto that I installed last week. The current one is license plate area and shows trailer hookup and backing good enough for my purposes. Next addition may be a dash cam like Sous installed. Then I think the third brake light camera would be good for checking out what going on with bed and trailer going down the road, as well as traffic behind me if I care to see that. IIRC the head unit has DVR capabilities if someone was doing something stupid back there and I was worried about it.

The only other camera I can possibly think of wanting would be a trailer mounted camera, if I decided to add that the Atoto would still have another port left to plug it in.

Even all of that is probably overkill for my purposes.
 
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