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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 06:38 PM
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Gary. look at the F-250/F-350 boosters. Most of them are dual diaphragm smaller diameter ones.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Stopping a truck with no vacuum boost is no walk in the park either.
A dead engine while in motion is no good in any situation.
Recent GM ignition recalls and the older Ford TFI issue attest to that!

Maybe when everyone goes to electric rack and brake assist there will be an option that can still function with the engine off?
True dat! But, a vacuum booster isn't quite as hard to overcome as a hydraulic booster.
In the old days, power steering and brakes didn't exist on most trucks, so the engine cutting off wasn't a big deal. Kick it out of gear and coast till ya found a place to pull off the road.......
These days, even a throttle pedal sticking seems to cause mass panic, and lots of crashes. Whatever happened to common sense kicking in, telling the idiot behind the wheel to just shut off the key? Oh, wait, then they "lose" the steering and brakes..........

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My wife's GLK has that setup.
I had a 70 model ford truck that didn't lose brakes or steering if the engine cut off. They were the "Mexican" varieties... (manuel).......
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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Power steering while still rolling is not really an issue, IMO
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Power steering while still rolling is not really an issue, IMO
True. Power steering is actually kinda useless, unless fully stopped.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Anyone remember the speed sensitive Honda PS of the early '80's?
and trying to find the fluid?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Anyone remember the speed sensitive Honda PS of the early '80's?
and trying to find the fluid?
Vaguely....
Mazda also had a speed sensitive power steering available in the 84/85 RX7 (earlier models were manual only). Basically, over about 15-20 MPH, the pressure relief valve just bypassed, making the pump dead-weight.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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Ok, you guys have lots of suggestions on hydro-boost, but let's see what you do with a more fundamental problem - the bracket for the Saginaw pump takes the same space that the A/C compressor's bracket takes.

Here's a shot of the pump mounted where it wants to go:




It mounts well, but high - right where the compressor bracket goes. Here's both the A/C bracket and the little Saginaw bracket mounted, and you can see where the pivot bolt goes.




I ran out of time today but will work on it more tomorrow. One option I'm going to pursue is to use the longer Windsor bracket that bolts to the water pump - as shown in this pic. And, by the way, that's a Windsor pump and bracket combo and all that took was to drill and tap a hole in the A/C bracket, which is visible just above the stud in the pic above.





But, one problem with that is that the Saginaw aluminum bracket has a step between the pivot point and the clamping point, as shown by the yellow arrow in this pic. I can put a spacer there, but will need to take some off the rear of the bracket where the red arrow is. However, I don't know what that'll do with belt alignment, so will have to figure that out tomorrow.





So, I'm looking for ideas. Easy, tough, out-of-the-box, conventional, strange, etc. Please?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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Cut/weld the 2 brackets, and mount the pump down low.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Gary,
Would the a/c bracket from the Lincoln in the original picture work better for the compressor you are using?

If the holes do not line up, they could be welded closed and redrilled for your compressor.

It looks like it would also move the compressor over closer to the distributor.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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RW - I assume you mean meld the two little brackets to get the pump over to the side. The Windsor bracket by itself will do that, but I'm wondering about melding the two to get the pivot bolt to use one of the outside holes shown in this pic:

Well, I can't seem to post pics as I'm getting a proxy error. But, go back up and look at one of those pics.

Kyle - I'm confident that would do it, but I don't think I like it. It looks to me like the compressor sits much higher on the Lincoln (again, I'd post the pic but that's broken on FTE right now) and I don't think I like that. However, I'm not saying no.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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This is my old stock 302 in my 83 f150. I am picturing it looking more like this to give a more factory look for the era of the truck.

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Having trouble with the pic, but you can click it to see it on flickr. Also, if the compressor moved over, wouldn't that help with the dual snorkels?

 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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You got the Lincoln pic to load. Cool. But I still can't get to my albums. I have a pic in there of the Windsor A/C bracket mounted on this engine. IOW, it can be done but it puts the compressor high and right in the middle of everything.

As for the Lincoln's bracket, I'm sure it would work if using that big compressor. But I'm hoping to use one of the later model units.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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But I still can't get to my albums.
Why not?

Gary Lewis's Albums - Ford-Trucks
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Is it just me, or does the throttle cable bracket on that Lincoln look shorter than that of an F-Series 351M/400?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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Chris - Last night I couldn't get to the albums or load pics. Was getting a proxy server error from FTE. Works this morn, but I'll wait until I get some work done today to post more pics.

Shaun - You may be right, but it is hard to tell. However, I hadn't even noticed it until you mentioned it. Odd how we get attentive to certain details.
 
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