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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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That's the one I used! Very helpful. Here's another good one at Full Size Bronco:
Saginaw Powersteering Pump Rebuild Not 56K!!

Now that I look through these again I'm kind of reminded more of what the rebuild was like. I think a seal puller tool would also be useful (to get the front shaft seal out), but you can do it without one in a pinch. But something like this:
Lisle 56650 Lisle 56650
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makes it a lot easier. I've used both those several other places on my truck too: front diff, spindles, etc...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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Thanks for the link Luke.


I tried to Rep you, but have to wait.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:09 PM
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Thanks, guys. Out with the grandtwins at the mo, but will review those links later.

And thanks for the tool tips, Luke. I've been thinking I need the pulley puller as borrowing/renting one is becoming frequent.

And, I can't rep either of you!
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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I'm just repped out for the day...

Gary, you need to be more promiscuous.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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Great links and info.....

I can't rep any of the three of you guys.........
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Well, the OTC pulley puller will be in on Wednesday - the same day Kyle says the pump and bracket will be in. Thanks for the tip, Luke. And I've read through both links and understand the plan. Just need to order the kit now.

As for promiscuity, I rep'd Paul. Will that do?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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whoever deserves it...

I was let out of the penalty box for an hour or so this afternoon.
Then I had racked back up too much in 24 hours.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:58 PM
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Update: the Gates kit is supposed to come in with the puller - both from Amazon.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 11:16 PM
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While you're still at this early stage, you might give hydroboost brakes a thought and either discard the idea or prepare for it. I'm only just now thinking about it, since I've noticed my brakes take lots of muscle, which gets tiring. I can't imagine what it will be like with two tons in the bed.

If I had thought about it in advance, I would have sourced a Saginaw reservoir housing with two returns (or brazed on another return fitting myself). That's really the only change you need in terms of the power steering pump to be compatible with a future hydroboost upgrade. Even if I ultimately never went to hydroboost, I could just have capped off one of the returns. In other words, it would have been a really simple thing to prep for at the time, whether I used it or not.

Of course it's not like I can't change it now. Just easier at the stage you're at now.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 01:12 AM
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While you're still at this early stage, you might give hydroboost brakes a thought and either discard the idea or prepare for it. I'm only just now thinking about it, since I've noticed my brakes take lots of muscle, which gets tiring. I can't imagine what it will be like with two tons in the bed.
Do you not have power brakes? mine are the easiest brakes to push, out of any vehicle I've ever driven. They stop like an ostrich trying to fly, with it's head in the sand, as well.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 06:22 AM
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Matthew, the F-150 brakes are a lot smaller even than yours and use a single diaphragm booster. Mine will stop Darth very quickly, even loaded.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 07:59 AM
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What else is needed to implement hydro-boost?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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You would have to have the hydrobost unit itself that goes behind the MC. I don't know where that could be sourced.

Jim, I repped Luke.
 
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Early 6.9L diesels may have used it, but GM diesel cars used them. You probably would need the flow control valve and spring from one of those pumps. The routing is pump to hydro-boost with a return, hydro-boost to steering box with a return. I have also seeen them on larger trucks in-line with a vacuum booster.
 
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Hydroboost

Here's a drawing from the catalog. Looks like the 87 & 88 F150, as well as the 250's and 350's, had hydroboost and it replaced the vacuum booster. Unfortunately I can't tell from the text section of the catalog what part numbers were hydro and what were vacuum. I'll check some parts store catalogs and see if I can spot it, but if any of you know please chime in.




I'm not sure how much benefit hydro would bring as I've not been around one with it. But the brakes on Dad's truck have always been good and I can lock the wheels without much effort, and I can't imagine hydro would do more than that. Or, am I missing something?
 
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