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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
And that brings up a question I'd been meaning to ask - how often should a torque wrench be checked? Mine has never been checked. So, I'm thinking about buying the Eastwood Digital Torque Adapter. It is accurate to within +/- 1%, so should let me dial all of my torque wrenches in.
Gary, I don't know about that one, but at the Calibrators meeting in 2011, we stopped by the Morehouse booth. They were demonstrating their torque standards calibration system. One of their people had gone by a Harbor Freight location and picked up one of their Powerbuilt digital torque indicators to show how inaccurate some of these could be. Surprise, for $39.99 you couldn't begin to come close with anything else. Needless to say I have one. It is invaluable torquing the lug nuts on Darth. I have one of the Tech-Torque Snap-On digital wrenches, also very nice plus an assortment of click type, which are only accurate to +/- 6% (remember what I used to do for a living).
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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My former employer was switching from Snap-On to CDI because of better quality control and accuracy. Sometime I will send Gary some pictures of my parting gift to NNS, a complete rebuild/upgrade to the torque calibrators.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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Thanks, Brute. I have about 5 torque wrenches and would hate to have to pay for calibrating all of them. The Eastwood unit would be a lot less expensive. And, I assume that it would stay in reasonable calibration if it isn't used regularly?
That I can't be sure of, so far mine(the Powerbuilt Bill mentioned, not the one I linked, woops) is good and from what I've figured the load cells these things use are pretty darn consistent. But the way I test and use it, if my 3 torque wrenches all read the same and the electronic tester is the variation then I know that it is off and I'll go trade it for another. So even if it does go bad I'll(we'll) be able to spot it before it causes problems.

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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That I can't be sure of, so far mine(the Powerbuilt Bill mentioned, not the one I linked, woops) is good and from what I've figured the load cells these things use are pretty darn consistent. But the way I test and use it, if my 3 torque wrenches all read the same and the electronic tester is the variation then I know that it is off and I'll go trade it for another. So even if it does go bad I'll(we'll) be able to spot it before it causes problems.

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Yes, that looks familiar, got mine right here.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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Ok, maybe I'll stop by HF on Monday. Thanks, guys.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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I do wish the beep it makes when you reach the set torque was louder. Some things can be a pain if you can't see the readout.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Bill, at some time CDI was supplying Snap On with torque wrenches. I dont know if it was in the past or is currently doing so. I bought CDI when I bought mine and if my machinist ever does my motor I will get to use them.
 
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Bill, at some time CDI was supplying Snap On with torque wrenches. I dont know if it was in the past or is currently doing so. I bought CDI when I bought mine and if my machinist ever does my motor I will get to use them.
That is correct, but apparently Snap-On changed sources just like Sears has done with Craftsman.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 07:23 AM
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Sears changed sources like you change underwear. I was in their testing labs in Hoffman Estates when we had the account. Nothing scientific at all.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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Gary, I think it's like the government, low bidder gets the business and to h*** with quality.
 
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It's that way when you have someone in charge who has no clue about the reasons customers stay loyal and is only concerned about maximizing profit.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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I was appalled by the attitude there - absolutely no worries about quality nor customer loyalty. And they switch vendors for price, pure and simple. I spent two years dealing with them and haven't bought Craftsman since.

But, that doesn't mean I'm not going to use the warranty on the tools. I recently took 3 brand new ratchets back. They were in tool kits I hadn't ever used that I'd bought new when I was there. Two kits had a total of three ratchets, and all three were bad. I took them in and expected the guy to go get new ones out of the display cabinet. Instead they have a stash of them that they keep for warranty purposes. Probably refurb'd ones that people like me brought in when new and they don't work.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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Well, maybe the guys that refurb them at least test them before they send them out???

Obviously Crazy Eddie didn't do anything for the Kenmore or Craftsman reputation of quality.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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He bought Sears on Nov 15th, my wife's birthday, late in the day. I heard it on the way to work on a financial radio station @ 6:00 the next morning and my heart sank. We'd moved into our house there, having completed the move from DE, on the 15th. And I already knew what Lampoon thought about outsourcing. Sure enough, it didn't take long for them to tell us the contract was cancelled - in spite of there being no legit cause for termination and there being serious financial penalties for doing so. The case was finally settled a few years later and I've not been able to determine how much they paid, but I was told it was very, very substantial.

In the end, looking back on it, that was a good deal for me. The atmosphere was oppressive, almost hateful. My wife says I aged 10 years in the 2 years I was there. Oddly enough, I was warned by the lead guy with the company who originally had the contract (the world's largest IT outsourcing company, that also makes rather large computers) that I didn't know what I was getting into. I heard what he said but didn't, at the time, understand.

I say all that to say their quality was once good but, like a certain "gasket company", has gone down hill dramatically.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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"a certain gasket company" that also got sucked up by beancounters with a fat wad of acquisition money and told the enthusiasts that used to run things what they cared about didn't matter anymore.
 
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