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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:57 AM
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Would someone please post the link they received from Auto Enginuity for a previous version so the members that are having problems with version 13.x have a work around. I will post up my links for versions 5,6 & 9 if I can find them in my e-mail but I don't know if they will work with the newer adapters. Version 5.3 is what I use most.

I really think this is such BS. I only own two vehicles I use it on but I have 8 or so friends that I have saved sessions on so when they come over I don't need to mess with it.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 07:30 AM
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I wish an old version was the answer for me. The old versions can't be run on my updated windows 8. The whole thing has been really frustrating. Now I'm on the hunt for a good tablet and torque pro.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by milehi_350
I wish an old version was the answer for me. The old versions can't be run on my updated windows 8. The whole thing has been really frustrating. Now I'm on the hunt for a good tablet and torque pro.

.....I didn't realize it was a windows issue as well. I tried Windows 8 once on my daughters laptop and I couldn't handle it


Here are some links to older versions. But I have no idea if they are compatible with the newer OBD adapters or security dongle whatchamacalits.......

Version: 6.1

http://www.autoenginuity.com/dloads/...r/6.1Setup.zip

Version 9.1

http://scantool.software.informer.com/download/
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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I got an email from Jay, the software engineer at AE today. I had sent an email to him asking where the Save Session option went.
His reply..."Sorry, that feature won't be coming back. Was a major reason for release delays also most cars it's incompatible with because the connection had to be done everytime. We found so few people used it for the time we spent making it work for the models wasn't a good use of our time."

So few people???????? I think their data is as buggy as their program.

I'm really wishing I had bought a different brand of scan tool.


I've said before for the amount I paid for AE it was the same I paid for hondata which has all the same basic features but actually works right AND you can tune a car with it!

I am not impressed with AE at all. I thought it would have been a much easier program to use. It does eventually get the job done that I need but only after fiddling with it for an hour.

They are charging professional cost for a program that runs like a free download...
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Well for me V13.0 works with windows 8.1, the new dongles ( no extra security dingles) Has Save session. but has a few other quirks.. Is it doesn't store or show # 3 graph Line. But it shows up fine on the Meter grid.Weird. It also doesn't do online activation at all. ( But having the dongle hooked up activates just fine so it's not a big Deal). V13.01+ is a complete crap shoot, no save sessions, corrupted data etc.I may stick with 13. and just deal with the little stuff.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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I got the same information when I called a couple days ago. My personal feeling is that forgetting about that save session functionality is a big mistake, but if we (those of us that want it to look at only one or two vehicles that we own) are in the minority, I can see why they feel it isn't important. If most users are independent shops that see one car after another for troubleshooting, they may be right. But they will likely lose the recommendations from people like us. I sure know that re-entering and reconfiguring sensor parameters over and over is a real PITA. It is different if you are getting paid for the time while you work on a vehicle. Since I am working on my own older vehicle, I don't really care about newest vehicle/program support, and I requested v12.3.0 which has the save session and does all I want to do. Would I have bought something else if I knew this was the direction they were going in? Maybe, depending on what is available at what price. I know at this price, one dealer service visit could eat up that cost, so I am still happy, just not thrilled; it seems a bit of a backwards decision to reduce functionality.
I run an independent shop, and I can tell you that Save Session is an important feature. A typical situation for me........ customer brings in car and says 'Check Engine Light' is on. I walk out to vehicle with scan tool and check codes. I then tell customer that I'm getting code 123, which normally means that xyz is bad. They often will want it fixed ASAP, but sometimes they just want me to turn off the light for now. Reconnect and clear codes for now. Two days later they are back with another CEL. Connect a 3rd time and verify it is the same code. Of course, it is the same code, so clear it again and put them on the schedule That makes 4 connections, and still haven't put the vehicle in the shop yet. Once I get the car in the shop, I check the codes again to make sure it hasn't added any new ones. Fix the problem, clear the codes, and test drive. So, maybe 6 connections on a fairly simple fix. If it is an odd problem that requires multiple test drives, I may reconnect 10 times to the vehicle.
I also have a number of fleet customers that I take care of. Save Session would be very useful there as well for quick status checks.

About the only user I can think of, that will be normally doing the 'one and done' type of connections, is an emissions testing place.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:23 PM
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I agree with you and Tugly, I think the Rice Burners and Euro-Cars are their Bread and Butter. And why keep supporting the Antiques? Just think how crappy it would be If we were all using AE on 1955 Chebbies?
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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That is interesting to hear; not being in the business, I didn't realize that function was as useful to a shop as it is. In that view, I am surprised they are willing to abandon that feature. Maybe not enough people have upgraded and called in to them yet. ??? Is there anything else out there in that price range and functionality? In just a week of going online to my own vehicle I saw what a drag it was to re-select sensors and re-configure max limits every time.


Originally Posted by va-sawyer
I run an independent shop, and I can tell you that Save Session is an important feature. A typical situation for me........ customer brings in car and says 'Check Engine Light' is on. I walk out to vehicle with scan tool and check codes. I then tell customer that I'm getting code 123, which normally means that xyz is bad. They often will want it fixed ASAP, but sometimes they just want me to turn off the light for now. Reconnect and clear codes for now. Two days later they are back with another CEL. Connect a 3rd time and verify it is the same code. Of course, it is the same code, so clear it again and put them on the schedule That makes 4 connections, and still haven't put the vehicle in the shop yet. Once I get the car in the shop, I check the codes again to make sure it hasn't added any new ones. Fix the problem, clear the codes, and test drive. So, maybe 6 connections on a fairly simple fix. If it is an odd problem that requires multiple test drives, I may reconnect 10 times to the vehicle.
I also have a number of fleet customers that I take care of. Save Session would be very useful there as well for quick status checks.

About the only user I can think of, that will be normally doing the 'one and done' type of connections, is an emissions testing place.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 05:12 AM
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To be honest, you don't need to set max limits. However - you won't get alarms in the right places, the live graphing will suck, and the colored numbers won't give you expected visual cues. Playing back a file means you have to set the max for every PID in the log to get a good graph - and you have to repeat the process every time you open the same log.

There is a way around this, but I suggest you do this to a copy of your log - unless you are well-versed at editing computer files. When editing an AE log, one slip renders it unreadable by AE. You can open the logs (CSV files) with Windows Notepad, and carefully change the gauge ranges within the brackets, being careful to keep the same format and not hitting the ENTER key - just change and save. It's OK to omit decimals on things like MPH, ICP, and RPM.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by va-sawyer
I run an independent shop, and I can tell you that Save Session is an important feature. A typical situation for me........ customer brings in car and says 'Check Engine Light' is on. I walk out to vehicle with scan tool and check codes. I then tell customer that I'm getting code 123, which normally means that xyz is bad. They often will want it fixed ASAP, but sometimes they just want me to turn off the light for now. Reconnect and clear codes for now. Two days later they are back with another CEL. Connect a 3rd time and verify it is the same code. Of course, it is the same code, so clear it again and put them on the schedule That makes 4 connections, and still haven't put the vehicle in the shop yet. Once I get the car in the shop, I check the codes again to make sure it hasn't added any new ones. Fix the problem, clear the codes, and test drive. So, maybe 6 connections on a fairly simple fix. If it is an odd problem that requires multiple test drives, I may reconnect 10 times to the vehicle.
I also have a number of fleet customers that I take care of. Save Session would be very useful there as well for quick status checks.

About the only user I can think of, that will be normally doing the 'one and done' type of connections, is an emissions testing place.

I agree! We have only 3 trucks now that I use the program for and it sucks every time. When I was shopping for a "scanner" one of the main things I was looking for was connectability easiness.

With my cheap actron I can walk up to any vehicle, plug in, and see codes within seconds literally. Nothing propriety but quick and easy none the less.

From what I gathered AE was a bit more complex to connect but nothing like I have experience.

It should be simple, plug in, click connect, select saved vehicle info, and off to reading codes or reading live data or the like.

But oh no, plug in, click connect, nothing happens. Unplug, turn off key, plug back in, turn on key, wait, click connect, might ask for vehicle info, select wrong option, close program, turn key off, unplug. Plug back in, turn key on, nothing happens, close program, turn key off wait. Plug back in, wait... turn key to on, wait.... click connect, wait... select vehicle information, hope it is right, OOO it is seeing sensors! program starts to work! There is a code, click retrieve codes, laptop shuts down from dead battery.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:37 AM
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Now we're comparing apples to locomotives.....AE was never designed to be a simple scanner. It does ALOT more than just pull and clear codes or OBDII. I completely agree that it has alot of faults. But to compare it even remotely to a handheld scanner is ridiculous. It was intentioned for The repair professional, it allows you to log and record (albeit not well) twice as many sensors as the handhelds. It is not a perfect platform, but keep it in perspective. If you can't make lemonade, then try reading your Perdels with your Actron.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by coax9952
Now we're comparing apples to locomotives.....AE was never designed to be a simple scanner. It does ALOT more than just pull and clear codes or OBDII. I completely agree that it has alot of faults. But to compare it even remotely to a handheld scanner is ridiculous. It was intentioned for The repair professional, it allows you to log and record (albeit not well) twice as many sensors as the handhelds. It is not a perfect platform, but keep it in perspective. If you can't make lemonade, then try reading your Perdels with your Actron.

My hondata program I mentioned earlier works nearly as fast as the actron, reads propriety codes, log, lets you watch live data, and lets you tune the flipping ecu! Adjust fuel maps, ignition timing, vtec engagement, etc. It does it all 100% and works perfectly every time and costs the same as AE!



 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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Oh yeah, and it knows what vehicle it is plugged into without even telling it!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
Oh yeah, and it knows what vehicle it is plugged into without even telling it!
Any quirks with the 7.3L? I would like to learn more about this program.........
 
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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Any quirks with the 7.3L? I would like to learn more about this program.........

Thats funny.

I would gladly pay what I payed for AE for fords only if it actually worked like it should!

btw, it is $250+ to run AE on any other vehicle and have it do more than my $75 actron which actually works the first time every time.
 
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