...exactly...although my insurance company did take the bottle with the 1/2 ounce of water in it to test it...guess it was water as I never heard otherwise...but where did it come from...that is the question...

Regards

 

Hi Rick, good to have you posting again. I missed you my friend..


Jim

 

While it may not do any good. I won't keep but the pics. At least they can't say I didn't drain my module regularly. Oh wait they will say I just dumped pump fuel in there.I manly do it for my reference of what comes out of filter.I may be peeing in the wind.but since I have to drain it a pic tells alot.

 

Just make sure they are time and date stamped!

 

For all you engineers someone needs to invent a filter that you put over the nozzle at the filling station. But portable that you can through in the toolbox and take to the next station. it would add that additional barrier of protection. Need to have easily replaceable filters and inexpensive. Something like a Brita water filtration.

 

CYA, CYA, CYA is what it gets down to, leave a clean audit trail showing you were doing it by the book. I don't blame you for a moment when the stakes are so high.

 

You know while it is a good thought...there is no way to prove it was your fuel, and that it was used in your tank etc. They would just scoff at the pictures I am afraid.

 

Pam. Absolutely my pics have every detail time date camera time pixels you name it. I'm kinda like a insurance claim estimater, I'm documenting everything. I feel some day might be of importance. No I don't worry about it. But it's a simple procedure.

 

There are 2 fuel pick up points in the tank at different height levels. Your tank may hold more then a quart of water at the very bottom and might not draw water until it reaches a certain level before it ends up in the fuel pump/water separator. I wish Ford and the other manufactures would also put a drain valve on the tank of their diesel trucks. One way to prevent water accumulation in diesel fuel tanks is to keep the tank as full as possible in the winter if you live in the north. As the truck is running warm fuel is being returned to the fuel tank and a tank that is 3/4 empty has much more surface area inside to start accumulating condensation then one that is 3/4 full once it starts cooling from sitting over night. I have a 6.0 with a 29 gal. tank and a 6.4 with a 38 gal. tank, I make it a habit to refuel again once their down 1/4 tank from full in the winter months if there going to sit overnight.

 

CYA is the way! I have glass baby food jars I am going to collect my "samples" in. Got my phone set to remind me to drain monthly, will date samples and store them for a year then rotate. I am keeping all my receipts, and run the Ford additive, and hopefully Ford sets this right before long! Good luck my brothers and sisters!

 

If a water in fuel issue arose what good would any of those samples do you?

 

none...

I am very aware of how the Ford pickup unit works...I have a working example in my garage... My "wonder" question was rhetorical...My tank was emptied a couple of gallons at a time as Shepherds tried to find water in the tank....none found...nada...not an identifiable drop...so where did the little bit of water found by the first dealer come from???...I do not know for sure but I know where the evidence points...

Shame on Ford

Regards

 

Yeah... what am I supposed to be looking for anyway?
I put it in a jar because someone said you have to wait for it to settle to see things (what things I don't know), I can't just park above a sewer drain and let it out, and because I don't want to waste fuel. The stuff I drain from the filter goes into my electric generator fuel tank.

I'm not sure it means anything but 'everyone else is doing it'... I've never done this on any other truck before. But it sounds like it could be a cool science experiment once I can figure out what step #3 is...

It's just like a regular inspection checklist thing.... 'Is the fuel still looking like fuel and not jello' - *check*

More info is better than no info though... not specifically in the context of fuel samples, but in general. When my parked truck got hit I took pictures of the location and the damage to the vehicle, copied the note on the windshield admitting fault, printed them out then headed to the police station to get the incident documented. They didn't even have to come out and look at my truck because I had everything they needed to know. Another guy walked in later and didn't have a current vehicle registration paper, couldn't find his insurance card and was struggling to remember what happened, and the officer basically gave him the form and told him to come back later when he has everything figured out. Prepared or unprepared?

Another time I brought in a computer server for a warranty repair. I had already torn it all down and discovered that the heatsink/fan had not been properly mounted. I took pictures of the heatsink fan that still had fresh thermal paste on it, which means that it was not touching the processor core as it should and noted all of my troubleshooting steps, then put it all together into a document. I brought the server in to the shop that built it. The guy at the counter said 'Ohhhhh it will take up to 5 weeks for us to diagnose the problem and RMA the product because we can't do advance replacement of processor cores.' Then I whipped out my report and said 'Ok, look, there's no further diagnosing required - you guys didn't actually mount the HSF onto the board properly so now this Xeon is toast.' They called me back 5 hours later and said 'Yeah, we confirmed the problem and we have given you a new E3 Xeon under warranty. The machine is ready for pick up.' - To me, that saves everyone time, it saves them having to figure out what is going on and troubleshooting from scratch, and I don't have to wait for them to figure out what's going on because I was meant to put the server into production use in a few days.

 

If there was no water in the fuel tank, but they supposedly found a few Oz's in the water separator would lead me to be suspect of their findings.

 

Again, it all comes down to one thing. The tech at the dealer. The dealer staff. The situation that the dealer staff is placed. Whatever happens, what the DEALER tells ford is what ford does. When somebody at the DEALER says the wrong thing it clearly makes ford come to a conclusion.

Dead horse.......it's not necessarily ford. Dealer service staff has clearly not been trained to know how to deal with ford warranty management. They clearly are in a position where they protect themselves first, not the customer. Whatever policy is out there the DEALER is in a tough spot and they handle it by protecting themselves at all costs.