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Yeah, Ches. Thanks for the patch panels! I held them up to the quarters when I got home and they'll cover the rot that's in there. I can't wait to see my truck sitting up on the 4x4 frame in a new coat of paint. Thanks for having us over, Rich. Hopefully next time it'll be warmer and Bob will have some ribs cookin' while we're building Penny's buggy.
so my short threw a goofy curve ball at me today. I drove the truck all over the place today with a new fuse in it and it didn't pop once probably burned a half tank in it and then i shut it off while waiting for the woman to come out of her work and started it back up and it blew the fuse. No lights or signals were on at all when this happened i don't even think i hit the brake. Every other time it has blown it has been when the one of the signals was on. Still probably the switch? or am i missing something dumb that i probably looked at like 20 times and didn't notice. I was also making a list of stuff i want to fix on my truck and thought i remembered someone on here saying something about making my ls rear end act more like a auburn or detroit and its on my list of things to fix since its pretty much worn out. Can anyone go into more detail on that so i can get a idea of what i will need to do.
First of all, there's posi, open end, and spool. Terms like limited slip, sure trac, and the like are just manufacturer names for a clutch-type posi-traction rear end. The only notable exception is a Detroit locker which uses a tooth-in-jaw type locking mechanism. What you have is probably an open end rear. The only way to make it act more like a posi is to install a posi carrier. Period.
You can fool an open ended differential, though. Since the open end will spin the tire with the least resistance, you don't get any power on the side that may have some traction. If you drag your foot on the brake while applying throttle at the same time, it will force the opposite wheel to spin.
Try this.....
Put your truck on flat, level ground and use a floor jack to jack up one of the rear tires off the ground. When you put it in gear, the wheel in the air just spins, right? (it will, no matter how much gas you give it, your truck won't move forward)
Now, press on the brake pedal gently and give it gas again. Your truck will move forward, because you gave enough friction to both wheels to make both spin.
Most people's "limited slip" rear ends are just open differentials that have enough friction on both wheels to spin both wheels from time to time. Nothing more. Either you have a posi unit with clutches or you don't. There's no in-between on rears.
Alan n Rich allway's good to see you to guys. It's late, neck has been fed, even had a bowl of ice cream I'm about done. Alan I'm starting to like some of the paint schemes we bounced back and fourth for Ka'Bluey! New's is about to come on, then this ol' guy is going DOWN! HARD! I'm all about doing some ribs, brats, beans etc on a smoker. BUT I get in on some of that buggy wrenching too! Y'all have a nice evening. Unk Bob
First of all, there's posi, open end, and spool. Terms like limited slip, sure trac, and the like are just manufacturer names for a clutch-type posi-traction rear end. The only notable exception is a Detroit locker which uses a tooth-in-jaw type locking mechanism. What you have is probably an open end rear. The only way to make it act more like a posi is to install a posi carrier. Period.
You can fool an open ended differential, though. Since the open end will spin the tire with the least resistance, you don't get any power on the side that may have some traction. If you drag your foot on the brake while applying throttle at the same time, it will force the opposite wheel to spin.
Try this.....
Put your truck on flat, level ground and use a floor jack to jack up one of the rear tires off the ground. When you put it in gear, the wheel in the air just spins, right? (it will, no matter how much gas you give it, your truck won't move forward)
Now, press on the brake pedal gently and give it gas again. Your truck will move forward, because you gave enough friction to both wheels to make both spin.
Most people's "limited slip" rear ends are just open differentials that have enough friction on both wheels to spin both wheels from time to time. Nothing more. Either you have a posi unit with clutches or you don't. There's no in-between on rears.
tag on it was for a posi unit 3L50 and even though its pretty worn out it still tries engage when i jack it up and spin the tires so it needs rebuilt it might have actually been in the 70's thread section that i asked when i was trying to figure out the tag info that was on it. We got to talking about how i thought mine was worn out after changing the fluid out on it cause it wasn't working and I was told that they weren't real great to begin with but with different springs extra clutches (or something like that) it could be greatly improved.
howdy gents,
i have 90 dodge shadow i'd like to put a 318 or 360 in or make it pro-street. nice little car. its clean no rust and the odometer hasn't moved since i bought it. it has the 2.5l 3spd auto in it right now. i think i put like 20,000 miles on it. and its still at 186,208 miles. and thats where it stopped. the odo that is the car runs good and drives. and the speedo works. and my ranger is a great truck.
tag on it was for a posi unit 3L50 and even though its pretty worn out it still tries engage when i jack it up and spin the tires so it needs rebuilt it might have actually been in the 70's thread section that i asked when i was trying to figure out the tag info that was on it. We got to talking about how i thought mine was worn out after changing the fluid out on it cause it wasn't working and I was told that they weren't real great to begin with but with different springs extra clutches (or something like that) it could be greatly improved.
Oh, Ok. I didn't know you actually had a posi tag on it. I meant no offense, but people do a burn out and see two black marks and get excited. Yeah, after decades of abuse, I can almost guarantee the clutches are worn out. I would think just a simple rebuild would get the results you're looking for. Remember, it hasn't been touched in 34 years. My guess is, if you rebuild it to stock, you'll get another 30 years out of it. That's good enough in my book. I would probably chase down the short and do the clutch before I worried about the posi. It'll work just fine with burned out clutches back there. Get the important stuff squared away first.
Well, it's late. By the time I got home I looked like night of the living dead. My whole body was swollen and red. Kinda gross actually. I took my meds and I'm getting back to Abby-normal. The Benadryl is kicking my butt, though. Being a vampire isn't fun all the time.
...For those who don't know, I have a mild aggravating allergy. ....to the sun. It started when I was in Iraq in '07. Like everything else, it appears to get worse as I get older.
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