As for the V10 I am sorry to see it go from the line up. That new V8 will never compare to the mighty V10.

 

But you know...for those on here that like to ONLY look at HP...the new Scorpion 6.2L makes MORE HP than the 3V V10 did.

The 6.2L makes 385HP at a whopping 5500RPM's.

The 3V V10 only made ~345HP at about 4200RPM's...

So to simply look at that ONE number...the 6.2L is "better" by some folks standards...

I haven't seen the actual HP curve of the 6.2L so I don't know how "flat" the torque curve is for that motor...what makes a GOOD towing motor is a nice flat wide torque curve.

What makes a good RACE motor is totally different...apples and oranges...

For the record...with knowing what the 2V V10 can do in the real towing world...I will truly miss the V10 as it fits the bill nicely for moving loads within the mfg ratings for the truck effortlessly. Therefore my plan is to keep this Ex for a long time...right now I just turned 50K miles on the clock...

Joe.

 

Yup when a motor is designed for pulling the hp figures don't mean that much as all they are is a refection of torque over rpm... The V10 if I recall had 455lb-ft of torque vs the new engine with only 405. That is roughly 12% less peak torque. I haven't seen the curve for the new V8 either but my guess is it would be crushed by the V10. I see the tow ratings online are about 2500lbs less now.

 

The 6.2 should be able to out run the V10 towing, but will need more gear to do it.

With the new 6 speed auto and 4.30s its putting the same torque and more HP to the ground than the 3V.

 

trolling...

 

Whaaah...no fair...gears...whaaah...you mean a smaller gasser can use an unfair advantage of gears...whaaah...no fair...whaaah...

 

Snowseeker...FYI...I found these photo on my webshots page...

In Utah along I-70 at scenic overlook:



In Moab Utah at campground:



Joe.

 

I don't get why your TT is so high up. I've seen that a few times while on the road where a TT will be really high off the ground. Is it just because of the slide outs that they have to have the rest of the camper higher over the wheels? Looks like that thing would buck allot of wind and cause bad gas mileage.


Nice pics btw! I've only had my rig up to one camp site a few times. Wife wants to plan a trip to her parents in texas one of these summers with the whole family, should be a good time. I would love to get out west as well, lots of neat stuff to see out there.

 

Yes I believe TT's with slides must sit higher...they need more clearance for the slides to operate and not impact the wheels...much of the "workings" of the slides (motors/gears/tracks/etc) are below the TT and those "workings" need room...hence the taller profile.

BTW...I measured the height of my TT and to the top of the AC unit it measures 11'...an important number to know as I travel some of these back country roads!...I keep that number written on a piece of tape on the drivers sun visor so I NEVER forget it either!!!

A good buddy of mine from OH had a TT withOUT any slides...he used to pull that and get decent mpgs...purchased the same make TT but WITH a slide...his mpgs took about a 2mpg hit just from the added ~6 to 8" of added height and the added WIND resistance inherent with the taller TT...the TRUCK and driver were the SAME only the TT changed...and as we all know wind BLOWS!!!

So personally when I see people "comparing" mpgs...no two situations are EVER alike so it is impossible to "compare"...now throw in a 5'r which has an even TALLER frontal area...and that too plays into this mpg equation!

We've been thru the northern pan-handle of Texas...went right by Cadillac Ranch on I-40 on our way out to the Grand Canyon...both of those pictures above were from that particular trip.

We have an awesome time as a family traveling all over the country...I'm really looking forward to getting to North Dakota, Montana, Idaho and the eastern side of Washington State...4 states we haven't been to yet!!!...the memories I pray my daughters keep as they grow and hopefully share this gift with their children and their grand children...is something I felt was important to pass on to them...

What part of Texas would you head to?...that is one BIG state!

Thanks for the compliments on the pictures...I really love traveling and taking pictures...this summers travels will add yet more memory opportunities too!

Joe.

 

Yep 385 HP and 405 TQ will beat 362 HP and 457 TQ by turning faster and using more gear reduction.

Kind of the same way 362HP and 457 TQ will beat 325 HP and 550TQ...

 

Wow Joe just saw your rigs pic.

That Ex with the 05-07 front end and gray/ Toreador red two tone looks awsome!

 

Bill,

THANKS!...she does look nice...at least to me...and she sure knows how to get the job done towing that house on wheels as you can see from our destinations above!

I too like the gray/Toreador red combo of the XLT trim package...

I think it is obvious the scenary is NOT Indiana!

Joe.

 

If it's in Indiana and flat, it has corn or soybeans planted on it! Of course the mountains in the background doesn't set too well with the lay of the land in Indiana. That is a nice rig you've got there too!

 

Yeah...northern Indiana where I'm at is VERY flat...once you get south of Indianapolis it gets a tad hilly until you reach your state and there are some hills...

I enjoy Jellico hill as I pull to Tennessee...a nice pull for sure...

The top photo above in Utah we're sitting at about 7000' elevation...we were pulling to Moab where the bottom photo was taken and we were coming from Bryce Canyon...

Southern Utah is absolutely GORGEOUS!!!

As I was pulling on I-70 though it is amazing how far between exits...one sign just before an exit read "No Bull - Next Services 110 miles!"...

There were exits between filling stations BUT they were simply RANCH EXITS...a freaking ranch has their OWN exit!!!...

Pulling on I-70 thru that part of the country does present some cross-wind challenges too...lots of "funnels" thru the passes that really BLAST you as you clear the mountain and hit the valley...interesting for sure...but BEAUTIFUL as you can see!

Thanks for the compliments guys!...I'll post up some of Montana and Idaho when we get out there in July as I'm sure this thread will still be going strong talking about the SAME crud!!! LOL

Joe.

 

That would be the truth if you had unlimited gears in your transmission.
Doesn't happen in the real World.
I had few situations when I had to go slower than the engine power would allow, but I didn't have the right gear, while keeping it above redline for 1/2 hr didn't work for me.