Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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Vic,
Thanks for your input on the forum. And the time to talk with customers. Although I like some of the options the "other" tuner has, your involvement and comment have got me saving to buy the 1704. Just though I would throw this in because we all know how people can get frustrated and abused.
Bob
Thanks for your input on the forum. And the time to talk with customers. Although I like some of the options the "other" tuner has, your involvement and comment have got me saving to buy the 1704. Just though I would throw this in because we all know how people can get frustrated and abused.
Bob
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From: 3rd Rock
Originally Posted by RJB1
Vic,
Thanks for your input on the forum. And the time to talk with customers. Although I like some of the options the "other" tuner has, your involvement and comment have got me saving to buy the 1704. Just though I would throw this in because we all know how people can get frustrated and abused.
Bob
Thanks for your input on the forum. And the time to talk with customers. Although I like some of the options the "other" tuner has, your involvement and comment have got me saving to buy the 1704. Just though I would throw this in because we all know how people can get frustrated and abused.
Bob
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From: stoneboro, pa
Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Very nice, we usually do forget how much time he does put in here in the halls of FTE
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
it is very nice, too bad the predator guy doesnt chime in on the other thread.
They do have Bob, and he knows that unit well and well help all
John also
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From: Whidbey Island, Washingto
Which one is the smart buy?
Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
The tuner will give you the ability to set the truck back to stock at any time. It will restore whatever program was in the truck before you plugged our product in. Codes will be erased (not just hidden, but erased) so there will be no way they can tell tuning was installed.
We aren't pushing these things too hard.....boost is still reasonable and EGT's are low.
The tuning will not cause a failure in the vehicle (this has been tested extensively), and should you ever have an issue with your truck....ALWAYS restore the stock program before going to the dealer.
If you follow this procedure, you will not have any warranty issues.
There were some serious problems with the 6 Liter (especially initially, so Ford has seen a number of failures in stock trim). If a trip to the dealer is necessary for any reason, ALWAYS return the truck to stock first.
We aren't pushing these things too hard.....boost is still reasonable and EGT's are low.
The tuning will not cause a failure in the vehicle (this has been tested extensively), and should you ever have an issue with your truck....ALWAYS restore the stock program before going to the dealer.
If you follow this procedure, you will not have any warranty issues.
There were some serious problems with the 6 Liter (especially initially, so Ford has seen a number of failures in stock trim). If a trip to the dealer is necessary for any reason, ALWAYS return the truck to stock first.
I am getting 2 different opinions from some dealers. One guy tells me that the EDGE Juice with Attitude is the smart, safe choice because it guards against high EGTs and the other tells me that Superchips it the middle mode is so safe that you don't need to worry about EGTs or buy a guage set up. I don't want to spend my money foolishly but I sure do not want to damage my engine. Do you need guages with Superchips anyways? Thanks for your help
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From: Hendersonville, NC
Originally Posted by jjf350
I am getting 2 different opinions from some dealers. One guy tells me that the EDGE Juice with Attitude is the smart, safe choice because it guards against high EGTs and the other tells me that Superchips it the middle mode is so safe that you don't need to worry about EGTs or buy a guage set up. I don't want to spend my money foolishly but I sure do not want to damage my engine. Do you need guages with Superchips anyways? Thanks for your help
Another issue is warranty; removing the SCMT is nothing more than a program download; to remove the edge for service you will have to pull the entire chip back off, and the attitude monitor off the dash. Manual analog gauges will not raise a warranty issue.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
Are you in Florida?
anything in the works for us van-o-philes ?
Frank
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
The superchips AND gauges will still be cheaper than the attitude setup. The superchips performs great, and will (IMO) widen the powerband a crapload more than the Edge module. The only thing other than the SCMT that will provide an extra-wide powerband is the predator, and even at that i dont think its *quite* as wide. The SCMT pulls all the way from 2k through redline and beyond, not to mention bumps your rev limiter from 4k to 4500, and disposes of the despicable speed limiter. I could be wrong but i *think* the edge leaves the limiter.
Another issue is warranty; removing the SCMT is nothing more than a program download; to remove the edge for service you will have to pull the entire chip back off, and the attitude monitor off the dash. Manual analog gauges will not raise a warranty issue.
Another issue is warranty; removing the SCMT is nothing more than a program download; to remove the edge for service you will have to pull the entire chip back off, and the attitude monitor off the dash. Manual analog gauges will not raise a warranty issue.
be sure to let your readers know that you have only third hand knowledge about the edge that you are comparing to...
I don't have one either, but investigated it enough before I got the predator to know that it is not a chip, it is a module and plugs into your pcm, etc...
it is difficult to pull all the pieces if you want to hide it from your dealer, and it will leave pyrometer bungs, etc... that are too difficult to deal with...
but both the Predator and the SCMT are programmers that ask for gauges to ensure your engines safety, but don't demand them ...
The SCMT was not out when I got my predator.... but I knew from all the reports that the 2 to 3 shifting on the edge, the quad, and all the other modules was an issue and the predator has not had an issue with shifting...
Will Superchips ever release dyno charts for us to compare ? or has anyone here paid the $40 for a dyno run so we could compare ???
If it produces the real 150 HP, I would be interested...
but as yet, I've not seen a dyno run... so I'll stay with my proven 100+ rwhp for now...
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
PSD, with all due respect...
be sure to let your readers know that you have only third hand knowledge about the edge that you are comparing to...
I don't have one either, but investigated it enough before I got the predator to know that it is not a chip, it is a module and plugs into your pcm, etc...
it is difficult to pull all the pieces if you want to hide it from your dealer, and it will leave pyrometer bungs, etc... that are too difficult to deal with...
but both the Predator and the SCMT are programmers that ask for gauges to ensure your engines safety, but don't demand them ...
The SCMT was not out when I got my predator.... but I knew from all the reports that the 2 to 3 shifting on the edge, the quad, and all the other modules was an issue and the predator has not had an issue with shifting...
Will Superchips ever release dyno charts for us to compare ? or has anyone here paid the $40 for a dyno run so we could compare ???
If it produces the real 150 HP, I would be interested...
but as yet, I've not seen a dyno run... so I'll stay with my proven 100+ rwhp for now...
be sure to let your readers know that you have only third hand knowledge about the edge that you are comparing to...
I don't have one either, but investigated it enough before I got the predator to know that it is not a chip, it is a module and plugs into your pcm, etc...
it is difficult to pull all the pieces if you want to hide it from your dealer, and it will leave pyrometer bungs, etc... that are too difficult to deal with...
but both the Predator and the SCMT are programmers that ask for gauges to ensure your engines safety, but don't demand them ...
The SCMT was not out when I got my predator.... but I knew from all the reports that the 2 to 3 shifting on the edge, the quad, and all the other modules was an issue and the predator has not had an issue with shifting...
Will Superchips ever release dyno charts for us to compare ? or has anyone here paid the $40 for a dyno run so we could compare ???
If it produces the real 150 HP, I would be interested...
but as yet, I've not seen a dyno run... so I'll stay with my proven 100+ rwhp for now...
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From: stoneboro, pa
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
The superchips AND gauges will still be cheaper than the attitude setup. The superchips performs great, and will (IMO) widen the powerband a crapload more than the Edge module. The only thing other than the SCMT that will provide an extra-wide powerband is the predator, and even at that i dont think its *quite* as wide. The SCMT pulls all the way from 2k through redline and beyond, not to mention bumps your rev limiter from 4k to 4500, and disposes of the despicable speed limiter. I could be wrong but i *think* the edge leaves the limiter.
Another issue is warranty; removing the SCMT is nothing more than a program download; to remove the edge for service you will have to pull the entire chip back off, and the attitude monitor off the dash. Manual analog gauges will not raise a warranty issue.
Another issue is warranty; removing the SCMT is nothing more than a program download; to remove the edge for service you will have to pull the entire chip back off, and the attitude monitor off the dash. Manual analog gauges will not raise a warranty issue.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by bighoss550
i didnt know about the rev limiter being raised..... if it raises it to 4500, how often does it want to rev there?? does it act like its in tow/haul?
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From: stoneboro, pa
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Mine has never seen more than 3800. The dyno runs were made shutting off at 3600, well after peak power. Check my dyno sheet on my gallery. The power and torque bands were very broad.
they advertise really high hp #'s but the tq #'s arent much diff than the predators.this tells me that they turn a higher rpm to make these #'s. and i want to know what they run like. it sounds like they act they way my high stall C4 in my mustang was. screamin, choppy shifts, that sqeeze ur spleen!!
im old now and dont like that.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by bighoss550
ya, ive looked at ur sheets alot. im gonna get the predator, but was just wonderin 'bout the scmt.
they advertise really high hp #'s but the tq #'s arent much diff than the predators.this tells me that they turn a higher rpm to make these #'s. and i want to know what they run like. it sounds like they act they way my high stall C4 in my mustang was. screamin, choppy shifts, that sqeeze ur spleen!!
im old now and dont like that.
they advertise really high hp #'s but the tq #'s arent much diff than the predators.this tells me that they turn a higher rpm to make these #'s. and i want to know what they run like. it sounds like they act they way my high stall C4 in my mustang was. screamin, choppy shifts, that sqeeze ur spleen!!
im old now and dont like that.
My Mustang on the avatar made it's power at 8,000 RPM. It had a Powerglide with a 5,000 RPM stall converter and 4.30 gears. It was Pushing 8,500 RPM in the lights. It sounded like an indy car.