the tq #'s move 'em but the only way they can make big hp #'s is to make that tq at a higher rpm than the predator.....i only would consider the scmt if it makes the same tq at lower rpms as the predator and it just holds it longer in the rpm's to make the higher hp #'s


i may actually buy both, and drive w/ both and schedule a dyno day. then return one.

too bad that dang california kid blew up thetruck before he could get us some #'s!!!!

 

Carolina Kid! He is sensitive about that!

 

Maybe, but you can bet if they had any great dyno pulls they would have published them long ago.

 

ya........maybe ill have to be the guinea pig

 

wait.....hmmmmm i know of someone who has an scmt that probably wont be usin it for a while... hehe


bet he'd let me upload it for a try next time im down there!! maybe?

 

I'll bet he would as long as you let him drive it!

 

theres a scary thought!!!!

 

Vic went into detail about this in earlier posts. I don't believe that he's raised the rev limiter. The speed limiter is removed but that's it.

The shift points are at 3900 but it doesn't always rev that high, only if you are hard on the throttle. For light and partial throttle operation under light load it shifts earlier.

Some people have expressed a desire for the 3rd gear shift to happen earlier under light throttle operation because it was set above 35 mph somewhere close to 39 mph and for folks who spend a lot of time driving around in 35 mph speed limit zones that was a problem.

The shifts under light throttle were too abrupt for some folks as well. Though personally I generally don't find them much of an problem. Under load or heavy acceleration the shifts seem fine to me.

I've run the Supertuner in both the high perf and econo tunes. Right now on on the econo tune trying to establish a mileage baseline. I only drive 4 miles to work each way so my city mileage is on the low end of what I think that most folks would see. Some times the longest trip on my tank is the extra two miles to the fuel station over and above the normal four miles. I do try to get in a decent stint on the highway every few tankfulls as well as a couple good full throttle runs just to keep everything cleaned out.

All in all, I'm well pleased with the Superchips product. The main down side I think is that you can't download a new file from the factory and have to send the unit back for updates. By all reports they turn it around quickly, but you are still without the tuner for a while and the postage.

I would like to see the dyno results though and am getting rather tired of waiting for them. After all, the product seems to offer significant gains over stock and if they have nothing to hide and it produces as advertised, why the wait? If there was a dyno close by I'd be willing to run the truck by there and do a couple of runs in each tune.

Daryl

 

Vic,

Got a question for you. I called SC today to see if I could get a tracking number. The individual (didn't get name) seemed to be contemplating a problem when he looked up my RA#. Well he puts me on hold, comes back and says that SC is waiting for a special "file" from Ford in order to finish the update. I ask what this "file" is, and he tells me that it is "something" that is needed to fix the problem that SC doesn't have on hand. He didn't really have any other explaination.

So, what is this special "file" thats required that was not present in the original Tuner?


Thanks Again

 

I did, in fact raise the rev limiter....jut a little.

As for dyno runs...they will be available soon.

I'm going to make fresh runs with a random 03 truck and a random 04 truck
(we all know they make different power stock and modified between 03 and 04 strategy)
I will baseline each, load the tuner in "right off the shelf" and run each again. Like all testing, this will be a documented,controlled test with constant IAT, EOT and coolant temps, this way there will be no nonsense in the correction factor. No cold runs vs hot runs =o)
I have a TON of dyno runs I've made with 6.0L trucks, but I want to use a fresh set of trucks so it will be as recent as possible and I will present the data in layperson terms.
To do this right and show data takes time, and I MUST finish a project I'm working on right now before I make the compare dyno runs with the 1704.

As with anything in life......to much to do and not enough time!

I will be on this ASAP....

on another subject,
A few concerns about some of the RA related questions in this thread:

It is important that everyone in this forum realizes that I am in this forum on my own bealf in my own spare time and not on behalf of Superchips. I do not get paid to be in this forum and I do not post in this forum during working hours. I'm basically 'one of the guys' here who is a posting in this forum like everyone ele.

If you have an RA or your tuner is at Superchips, I may "happen to be here" in the forum for a general question but it is important that you call Superchips if you need an RA number or have a question about a current RA number. The customer service guys are there for you. I can't watch this thread constantly and Superchips needs to document questions from incoming calls.

Ths thread is mainly for discussion, testimonials, general questions, concerns, comparison etc...

We're just "hanging out" here =o)

 

I do have a fair share of 700+, 720+ FTLB dyno runs on 03 strategy trucks =o)

I'm going to do some runs and show all pertinent data so it's clear and all data is complete in layperson terms.
....just be patient a little longer.
I've been REALLY busy but this is a priority to me.

 

Why not make it a dyno/track day.

It is very posible (in fact common) for a product making less peak power to pull a faster ET and be more fun to drive. For instance, there are 440 HP 03 Cobras waxing 470 HP cobras in ET and MPH at the track. Driver skill is a factor moreso in ET, but MPH has much more to do with not only how much power gets to the ground, but how LONG it gets to the ground.

ET shows driver skill, MPH shows the cars power.
This is more true than many think.

I'd prefer 440HP Cobra over a longer RPM spread to the same car making 470 HP for just a quick spike, then dropping to 420 HP...
It all depends on how it feels and performs on the street and the track.
The 470 car is "faster on the dyno", but that really a bunch of nonsense.

I've said this 1,654,439,245,466 times so what's one more =o)
A dyno is a tuning tool used for comparison.
THAT IS IT!
It is a tuning TOOL =o)

I'm not into the whole "dyno jockey" thing, because it really says little about drivability and how the power affects real world acceleration and towing, unless you are using something other than a Dynojet (like the Superflow I use or a Mustang Dyno) and are doing loaded pulls with data acquisition. Even this must be backed up with street research to se what happens in the real world.

 

would u be able to plug in a predator or throw on a 6 gun and compare on the same dyno? that would be nice. i just want to see dyno and track sheets for all of them, on the same truck, w/ the same driver, on the same day.

im not askin u to do anything ur not allowed by superchips to do, tho just thought if u had it on a dyno and there "happened" to be a predator that "accidentally" uploaded to the truck, it may show the scmt is better

 

i have ran dynos in the past, and that is true. u can "push" variables and make it what u want, to an extent.

BTW, it must be nice to get to play w/ a superflow all day

id just like to see an honest comparison. thats something pretty rare anymore

 

have u plugged it to a 450 or 550 ever? superchips says it no workey!!! but they dont give a reason.

u know anything about this?

thankyou for all the time u put in here, by the way that really says alot