With a strike upon us ....
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This is all how it starts. Remember the Pittsburgh area and the steel industry? The UAW seems to be on course to be following the United Steelworkers. The United Steelworkers totally destroyed the US steel industry. The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. They used to produce most of it in and around Pittsburgh.
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This is all how it starts. Remember the Pittsburgh area and the steel industry? The UAW seems to be on course to be following the United Steelworkers. The United Steelworkers totally destroyed the US steel industry. The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. They used to produce most of it in and around Pittsburgh.
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This is all how it starts. Remember the Pittsburgh area and the steel industry? The UAW seems to be on course to be following the United Steelworkers. The United Steelworkers totally destroyed the US steel industry. The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. They used to produce most of it in and around Pittsburgh.
Over 100 years ago the steel was controlled by a monopoly and the need for the union was born. Unions do get greedy but corporations are even more greedy and the Fed never stops printing more money.
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This is all how it starts. Remember the Pittsburgh area and the steel industry? The UAW seems to be on course to be following the United Steelworkers. The United Steelworkers totally destroyed the US steel industry. The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. They used to produce most of it in and around Pittsburgh.
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Was it the United Steelworkers who destroyed the industry or was it the unsustainable infinite growth model that major corporations are doing? If the pay would have increased with inflation then nothing would be affordable in this country. The corporate solution in America is to move overseas and pay for slave labor. Quality goes down but profits go up. Meanwhile, in America inflation keeps going up and profits keep going up and wages stay the same.
Over 100 years ago the steel was controlled by a monopoly and the need for the union was born. Unions do get greedy but corporations are even more greedy and the Fed never stops printing more money.
Over 100 years ago the steel was controlled by a monopoly and the need for the union was born. Unions do get greedy but corporations are even more greedy and the Fed never stops printing more money.
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Right, the union (today) is currently about 4 times the size of the UAW.
Does anybody research the facts they start spewing
China, yes, China is the largest union country in the world.
Anybody else want to jump on the coattails the ride down the slide?
Does anybody research the facts they start spewing
China, yes, China is the largest union country in the world.
Anybody else want to jump on the coattails the ride down the slide?
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The corporate solution in America is to move overseas and pay for slave labor. Quality goes down but profits go up. Meanwhile, in America inflation keeps going up and profits keep going up and wages stay the same.
Over 100 years ago the steel was controlled by a monopoly and the need for the union was born. Unions do get greedy but corporations are even more greedy and the Fed never stops printing more money.
Over 100 years ago the steel was controlled by a monopoly and the need for the union was born. Unions do get greedy but corporations are even more greedy and the Fed never stops printing more money.
Greedy is greedy. I don't care about more or less. Kinda like my dad didn't care which of us two idiots started the fight in the backseat of the car. We both were not able to sit for a while. All he cared is that one person threw the first punch and the other responded. Both punished.
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So let China have it. Sooner or later, someone else is going to do it cheaper and China will have that same discussion. This is like trying to keep something around just because it was there before. If I sold food and Walmart came to town, what are my options? Try go toe to toe with them and optimize my operation and keep squeezing it till it can't save any more money and still keep at it? Or I can realize my time is over, find something they don’t do and do it better.
those who refuse to see the writing on the wall don’t want to confront that fact that some of ford’s most in-demand vehicles like the Maverick, Bronco Sport, and Mach E are already made in Mexico, in addition to the cars based on the fusion.
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This is all how it starts. Remember the Pittsburgh area and the steel industry? The UAW seems to be on course to be following the United Steelworkers. The United Steelworkers totally destroyed the US steel industry. The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. They used to produce most of it in and around Pittsburgh.
The US now buys most of its steel from.....China. I can't call this but a straight out lie simply can't.
Look pretty far down the list, I am large it for you.
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Do wages stay the same? I'm pretty sure mine haven't. The idea is to move to where something costs less. As to quality, it depends on the buyer. If the buyer refuses to buy, doesn't matter how cheap it so. It doesn't sell. Remember Craftsman tools? Why did Walmart sell the cheap crap from China? Because my, the consumer, still buy it. I don't blame Walmart for selling cheap crap. I blame the consumer for asking Walmart for cheap crap.
Greedy is greedy. I don't care about more or less. Kinda like my dad didn't care which of us two idiots started the fight in the backseat of the car. We both were not able to sit for a while. All he cared is that one person threw the first punch and the other responded. Both punished.
Greedy is greedy. I don't care about more or less. Kinda like my dad didn't care which of us two idiots started the fight in the backseat of the car. We both were not able to sit for a while. All he cared is that one person threw the first punch and the other responded. Both punished.
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So if they were so in demand, what makes the Chinese crap sell so well? Besides the buyer thinking he can get almost a Craftsman at a fraction of the price?
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BTW, I am not anti-union. I've worked in a couple union factories before my military career, and my dad retired from one, and my brother still works in one.
