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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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and... It's the same with that YouTube vidio that you posted... Maybe someone there cozied up to that guy's wife... We don't know.
I did? I hardly post videos.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 09:25 PM
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Another perspective or question is, why would they want or need to be unionized?
Back in the 1900s, I totally agree that the union was necessary. My wife "joined" the union because it was a condition of employment. Best we could do was scrape back the political fees. It did allow people to get away with not doing their duties without much fear of consequences to some extent. So yes, if I plan to be hardworking and being worth more, I wouldn't want to be in a union. If average, it is a push. If I plan to scrape along, it is a plus
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
I don't think so. Here's an article I quickly found that briefly touches on some pay differences. https://www.newsnationnow.com/busine...utomakers/amp/

Another perspective or question is, why would they want or need to be unionized?
Because the union sets the pay rates,

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Did you even do any basic search after you cherry picked from one article? LOL

in a relevant article from CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/23/cars/...ntl/index.html


Versus a demand for 46% and 20 % decrease in work hours demanded by UAW.

If 5% of pay for Honda is 92 dollars, that means the Japanese union base salary pay is about 1850 dollars a month. Even if they get a 100% bonus each year that's 3700 dollars a month.

Would UAW workers consider 44400 dollars a year as "distribution of wealth"?
It's pretty obvious you didn't even read the article completely. Also

Average Salary in Japan for 2023?Japan, a significant player in the global economy, is widely recognized for its robust automobile industry and its ability to adapt to changing market trends. This vibrant nation, with its unique blend of tradition and modernity, offers a rich cultural experience and a high standard of living. For expats considering a move to Japan or those already residing there, understanding the country’s salary landscape can be invaluable. This article delves into the average salary in Japan for 2023, providing insights that can help you plan your life in this fascinating country more effectively.

Delving into the Average Salary in Japan

The average salary in Japan is shaped by various elements, including the location of the job, the level of work experience, and the level of education. According to Salary Explorer, a typical Japanese employee earns an average monthly salary of approximately 515,000 JPY (or about 3,794 USD). This figure takes into account additional benefits such as housing and transport.

Salary Range in Japan

In Japan, the average monthly salary for employees can span from approximately 130,000 JPY (958 USD) to 2,300,000 JPY (16,944 USD). It’s crucial to note that the upper range of salaries signifies the highest average, not the maximum salary that Japanese individuals can earn.

Median Salary in Japan

The median salary in Japan for 2023 stands at 471,000 JPY (3,470 USD) per month. The median salary is a value that separates the working population into two equal halves, indicating that 50% of Japanese people earn above the median income, while the other half earn less.

Minimum Wage in Japan

Japan typically adheres to a 40-hour workweek, and the minimum hourly wage for workers is determined by each region’s Regional Minimum Wage Council. As of April 1, 2023, the current national weighted average minimum wage in Japan is 961 yen. Tokyo workers, earning the highest minimum wage in Japan – about 985 JPY (8.5 USD) per hour – find themselves in a position comparable to workers in other high-income international cities like Hong Kong and Seoul
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 06:07 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 2021F350
So, why isn't Toyota Unionized in the U.S. Maybe, Just Maybe, the workers are treated/paid, good enough to keep the unions out...???
I work around Toyota here in ky. People seem happy with it. There is no need for unions. They themselves cost money the employer and employees could split. Plus you don’t have all that lobby money going to the swamp…of their favorite political party.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Because the union sets the pay rates,



It's pretty obvious you didn't even read the article completely. Also

Average Salary in Japan for 2023?Japan, a significant player in the global economy, is widely recognized for its robust automobile industry and its ability to adapt to changing market trends. This vibrant nation, with its unique blend of tradition and modernity, offers a rich cultural experience and a high standard of living. For expats considering a move to Japan or those already residing there, understanding the country’s salary landscape can be invaluable. This article delves into the average salary in Japan for 2023, providing insights that can help you plan your life in this fascinating country more effectively.

Delving into the Average Salary in Japan

The average salary in Japan is shaped by various elements, including the location of the job, the level of work experience, and the level of education. According to Salary Explorer, a typical Japanese employee earns an average monthly salary of approximately 515,000 JPY (or about 3,794 USD). This figure takes into account additional benefits such as housing and transport.

Salary Range in Japan

In Japan, the average monthly salary for employees can span from approximately 130,000 JPY (958 USD) to 2,300,000 JPY (16,944 USD). It’s crucial to note that the upper range of salaries signifies the highest average, not the maximum salary that Japanese individuals can earn.

Median Salary in Japan

The median salary in Japan for 2023 stands at 471,000 JPY (3,470 USD) per month. The median salary is a value that separates the working population into two equal halves, indicating that 50% of Japanese people earn above the median income, while the other half earn less.

Minimum Wage in Japan

Japan typically adheres to a 40-hour workweek, and the minimum hourly wage for workers is determined by each region’s Regional Minimum Wage Council. As of April 1, 2023, the current national weighted average minimum wage in Japan is 961 yen. Tokyo workers, earning the highest minimum wage in Japan – about 985 JPY (8.5 USD) per hour – find themselves in a position comparable to workers in other high-income international cities like Hong Kong and Seoul
none of you random copy and pasting disproves the CNN article that clearly states Honda pays their workers a base salary of 1850 dollars a month, and about 1940 dollars a month after the 5% raise.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
none of you random copy and pasting disproves the CNN article that clearly states Honda pays their workers a base salary of 1850 dollars a month, and about 1940 dollars a month after the 5% raise.
Back in the 2000s, there was a mention of the legacy costs GM has that Honda, for example, doesn't have. Something to the tune of $2000 a car. Is that still a factor?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Distribution of wealth, IOW, one works very hard for their income, but has to split it up with those who don't work anywhere as hard. Sounds like Communism. There is this saying, that guy is not worth his salt. There was a time where salt was very hard to come by, and was used as payment. That is where that term originated. It still holds true today, you are only worth the effort you put out.

Unions today go around the net worth of a person and lumps them all in one. Pay raise for everyone, or no one works. A person who puts out the extra effort, deserves the raise, those who don't, well, don't. Thats how life works.

Screw the unions.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 02:02 PM
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Merle was right. We really are rolling down hill like a snow ball headed to... 😂

Good ole UAW.
 
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Originally Posted by acdii
Distribution of wealth, IOW, one works very hard for their income, but has to split it up with those who don't work anywhere as hard. Sounds like Communism. There is this saying, that guy is not worth his salt. There was a time where salt was very hard to come by, and was used as payment. That is where that term originated. It still holds true today, you are only worth the effort you put out.

Unions today go around the net worth of a person and lumps them all in one. Pay raise for everyone, or no one works. A person who puts out the extra effort, deserves the raise, those who don't, well, don't. Thats how life works.

Screw the unions.
Side note, I don't like tipping at places that pool tips for this reason. I only tip the individual NOT the group. For the individual, anything from 0 to 30%. For the group, 0%.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
Back in the 2000s, there was a mention of the legacy costs GM has that Honda, for example, doesn't have. Something to the tune of $2000 a car. Is that still a factor?
it absolutely is. If wages go up as much as Fain & Friends want and work hours are also cut, that hole gets much deeper quickly once pension, medical, etc are added up, and mass layoff impacting the hourly workers will come the first sign of corporate losses start.

 
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
it absolutely is. If wages go up as much as Fain & Friends want and work hours are also cut, that hole gets much deeper quickly once pension, medical, etc are added up, and mass layoff impacting the hourly workers will come the first sign of corporate losses start.
I would think so.

IIRC, there is something about electric vehicles being less labor intensive than gas vehicles.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
I would think so.

IIRC, there is something about electric vehicles being less labor intensive than gas vehicles.
You can bet Ford designed Blue Oval City to minimize labor costs(read: headcount) in preparation of it being a union shop. They have to compete with products coming out China and to a lesser extent, other countries in the PacRim region. If they pay everyone working there 150k including benefits, they are setting themselves up to fail unless it is a much leaner team.
 
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The vibe around here seems to be either you are a PinkoCommie, Union, or an over the top Capitalist that thinks it's OK that bosses make 398 X more than workers... Well it's NOT, How about some moderation to the greed, and stick with what worked for 50+ years, Capitalism with some (moderation?), (responsibility?), (doing the right thing for the community?), without loosing ones decency/humanity to the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...
 

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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021F350
Yes, but my point was what the CEO said... “We’re at the forefront of encouraging distribution [of wealth] "... (what... pay the unskilled more...???) "we must do our part to raise wages to make our industry more competitive,” (what, isn't it going to cost more for their vehicles..???) ..) Does anyone here think a N. American run company like the Ford CEO would ever say that...???
Originally Posted by 2021F350
The vibe around here seems to be either you are a PinkoCommie, or an over the top Capitalist that thinks it's OK that bosses make 398 X more than workers... Well it's NOT, How about some moderation to the greed, and stick with what worked for 50+ years, Capitalism with some (moderation?), (responsibility?), (doing the right thing for the community?), without loosing ones decency/humanity to the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...on-2023-06-30/

TOKYO, June 30 (Reuters) - Toyota Motor (7203.T) chairman Akio Toyoda received a total compensation package of 999 million yen ($6.90 million) in the financial year ended in March, up 46% from the previous year, according to the firm's filing on Friday.



Oh look, Toyota ceo makes 310 times the average worker who makes in the neighborhood of 1850 monthly if Honda and Toyota pay their workers similarly in Japan.

what were you saying about sharing wealth and stuff? Never took your for such an avid nipponphile.
 
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