With a strike upon us ....
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Cargo Master
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More Turbo
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straight out of the union busting playbook!!!
Everything is an NDA'd secret until we need you on our side then we try a direct appeal to you since your union isnt buying our bull **** in the negotiating room...
"we added 4000 UAW jobs since 2008 while our competitors sent 70k+ jobs to Mexico"...
How many non-union jobs did Ford add in that same time period? How many jobs did Ford ALSO send to Mexico in that time period?
Just like in politics they will cherry pick numbers and present them to make themselves look good, but they wont present the other side in that "yea we actually did the same thing, but its different"...
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Didn't UAW once have approximately a million due's paying members about 30 years ago?
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
Cargo Master
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Didn't UAW once have approximately a million due's paying members about 30 years ago?
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
More Turbo
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Didn't UAW once have approximately a million due's paying members about 30 years ago?
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
Now they have what? Maybe 300,000?
You would think they would learn their lesson from previous mistakes. In 15 years the union will be history and they will be scratching their *** wondering WTF happened.
And ill say it again, it wasnt the UAW that caused NAFTA in the 90's... It was...shocker...a "labor friendly" democrat globalist administration starting in ~1992... The shift to foreign labor didnt REALLY start until NAFTA...and thats not only the auto industry its every industry. Thats when the proliferation of foreign "customer service" call centers moved oversea's as well... It wasnt just an automaker problem, it really was the beginning of a huge outflow of US labor all over the world.
More Turbo
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UAW has a separate PAC just like my union. Contributions are voluntary. In my union zero regular due's get transferred into the PAC budget. Our's is particularly careful to keep the two separate because they understand we have members who have strong views one way or the other.
NOW does the union, at large, dictate what the PAC does, I believe that answer is yes. Ours is done, in general, with full votes of the almost 30 executive board members on how to direct the PAC. They also have their own steering committee. There have been a few hot button political issue's over the years that actually went out for a full vote of the membership. I believe the actual union, not just the PAC, sign's off on those.
NOW does the union, at large, dictate what the PAC does, I believe that answer is yes. Ours is done, in general, with full votes of the almost 30 executive board members on how to direct the PAC. They also have their own steering committee. There have been a few hot button political issue's over the years that actually went out for a full vote of the membership. I believe the actual union, not just the PAC, sign's off on those.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Wasilla, AK
One thing is for absolute certainty.
The higher union wages go the bigger the chance the jobs will be moved out of the country.
Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
If you deserve a raise, prove it by improving the overall quality of the vehicle you are building. Anything else is just wasting everyones time and money.
The higher union wages go the bigger the chance the jobs will be moved out of the country.
Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
If you deserve a raise, prove it by improving the overall quality of the vehicle you are building. Anything else is just wasting everyones time and money.
More Turbo
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I mean seriously???
please show me in your root cause engineering analysis how the dude on the factory floor caused the batch of lug wrenches to be out of spec FROM THE SUPPLIER, that is likely in China... It's not like they are checking each and every one as they install it into the bracket...
Also please show me how the guy on the line that installs a COMPLETE AXLE ASSEMBLY knew that the heat treat on the drivers side axle shaft was bad when he installed the assembly onto your truck...
While you are at it please also show work to prove that the UAW worker who put my defective instrument cluster in knew that it MIGHT have had a bad solder joint on the circuit board...
Ill be waiting right over here for your root cause analysis that consists of more facts than "because he is a lazy piece of crap UAW worker"...
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Cargo Master
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But hay, it's ok to blame the burger flippers.
More Turbo
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Spoken like a truly uninformed guy that doesn't understand the process of mass production.
Cargo Master
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it is surprising the union/ford doesnt have parts checkers though. Might be a new position to fill!