When I worked in a factory, we had QC guys that would come over with the blue prints and calipers and check every dimension on every part all down the line t make sure the tooling was correct, the bends were the proper radius and dimension, and the holes all lined up. This was on a basic fan enclosure. The checks were done twice a shift.

How hard would it be to have QC people walk the line and check that everything is correct, that the parts going in and on are the correct ones? Majority of issues are due to bad parts, and a QC group that inspects the parts as they arrive to make sure they are correct would go a long way to prevent issues.

 

Pretty simple to set up an incoming QC with defined AQL requirements.

 

Wrong, I have built more complex systems than you will ever deal with. Why did it take 2 1/2 months and about 45,000 trucks to discover that they were putting the wrong lug wrench in the trucks? Obviously no one was checking that the items were correct. It is not an out of spec issue it is an incorrect item check out the Customer Satisfaction Program 23B52.

 

Ask yourself this, electrician will use thousands of wire nuts in a year, sometimes the metal inserts get missing. Do you think he inspects every single one of them before using?

Once again, what does this have to do with the rank and file? They are not the decision makers.

Most recalls cover a far more majority that is affected.

Do you have any ideas on recalls work?

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Well ok then, I won't get into a childish I've built more complex things than you discussion I'll just go ahead and congratulate your complex background...
but its easy to blame the front line person for your lug wrench issue when FORD sourced and spec said wrench and due to the fact that QC is not in said installers scope of work and said wrench is not installed on the lug nut but installed most likely behind the rear seat your lug wrench issue would easily be overlooked.. so in my uncomplicated mind this is a FORD mistake..

 

Well yes you can make numbers say whatever you want them to.
Yes you can play the blame game all day long about recalls and who's fault it is.
However if you have to add 1 BILLION DOLLARS a year to your operating costs, you have to recoup that money somewhere, trucks are already $100.000 they cannot do anything but go up.
Just because one man says hey yall lets strike.
I hope they stricke themselves right out of a job. Don't need em anymore.

 

Pretty significant difference between a wrong lug wrench and the defective wire nut . The lug wrench should be a visual reject and a defective wire nut should be caught by the electrician testing his work. Both visual and testing are methods to screen defects.

 

It sounds like the defective lug wrenches are something like 22mm vs. 21mm... or 7/8 instead of 13/16... They are just slightly over-sized and can cause you to very easily round off a lug nut. Unless I am completely mis-understanding one of the other posts I read.

I know I'm not good enough to visually tell the difference at 1mm or 1/16 if I look at something for a long time, let alone a few seconds the guy on the line has to put the lug wrench in the bracket...

 

Hold up, it ain’t the lug wrench installer, it’s the parts receiver. Who is that? Part of the uaw?

 

Pretty obvious you and I are always on two different ends of the spectrum, but I'll go ahead and play that game with you.

So every lug wrench that i've seen comes in a kit and i that kit it is in a bag. I will assume it is delivered to Ford inside this bag which is probably inside of a box, which is probably on a pallet, among thousands of pallets that is delivered across plants every day.

And yes with their razor eye, they should disassemble all the pallets break open all the box. Flip open every pouch, pull out every lug wrench, they should have a station setup to check the lug wrench is keepability of turning a lug nut to a specify torque and maintaining its shape with minimal the deflection. That person should then once it's passed the torque test, repackage the lug wrench. Now we should pay that person $80,000 a year to do this, and now will raise the price of a vehicle.

​​​​​​ While we're at it, we should have a person dedicated to testing every part that comes in from a subcontractor supplier, double check it/ triple check it and we will pass that cost along to the consumer.

Let's get really silly now.

Perhaps the wrench is correct and they put the wrong lug size on?

​​​​ let's blame them for shifting on the final assembly guys, after all they put the transmission in. The failed CP4s, let's blame the final assembly guys for that too. Maybelline on line 7, she should have disassembled that six point seven as well as all the 6.7's to make sure CP4s wouldn't rotate. They're pistons inside the housing. She should check the valves and the rings for proper clearance.

Let's keep reaching and blaming the front line.

 

Spoken like a few bosses I have had over the years... and.... somehow more than one called me up a few months later offering me a job, and I said NO... and he said, I shouldn't take it personally, when I said no thanks to their job offer, after they said I was useless...

 

These union “workers” are just unskilled laborers who can and hopefully will be replaced. Let the unions come groveling back, Ford has taken losses before what’s one more year?

Screw Unions.

 

You wouldn't need UNIONS if companies/bosses treated the workers as someone who helps make the company what it is, like Mr. Ford did way back when... instead of just being looked at as a "cost" to the company, which the company needs to reduce or even eliminate, (robots)...

EDIT; Let them come "groveling back" says a lot about your perspective in how the world should be, In Your Opinion, (and many others on here)... It certainly is NOT my opinion... Trying to stay in the middle class of N. American society

 

are you saying the average line worker who’s asking to be paid 40hrs while only working 32, are all skilled and dedicated technicians that have no role in any decline in quality?

we’re just going to heap praise on them and pretend they’re the one bright spot in the auto manufacturing industry?

come on man be realistic. They’re part of the problem and them asking for more is not good timing with the state of everything in the auto industry.

i don’t blame an incorrect lug wrench size on them but let’s not pretend the automakers couldn’t do better without the UAW in this day and age if we could untangle their web and get rid of it.

 

Do better...??? Didn't the big three make like 90 billion $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ profit last year...??? or even "just" 9 billion or so, if my memory isn't right from the news I seen...