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On the navigation save could you put them in a folder and bring out the active route as needed?
mike
Mike, that is a great idea! Also, yes! Someone could absolutely do this. Perhaps for different legs of the overall route planning to be traveled. Say from GA to KY, then KY to IL, then IL to SD, etc...
As you can see, Google Maps named the button, but that can be renamed as well if desired.
Originally Posted by ARFixer
If the only difference in the 2nd Gen S8 Pro and S8 Ultra is the Hand Gestures do you guys think its worth it? Have you used the hand gestures? What do you think of them?
I do not care for the "gesture" feature, but some like it based on my review process before I selected a model.
Keep in mind, ATOTO is far from the only brand in town. They are the only affordable dual BT receiver unit I found in the affordable price range though. But, I ended up using a USB OBDII scan tool anyway.
If I can find a Windows emulator for Android that works, that will let me run the Turbonator software in the Atoto. Then I won’t have to lug a laptop around when datalogging.
I can help you with the Android emulator on Windows, but not the other way around Leonard. What are the OS requirements of the Turbonator software? Can it run on Windows 7, Linux, Rapberry Pi, etc?
If so, you may be able to use a video input on the ATOTO while running an auxiliary OS.
I do not care for the "gesture" feature, but some like it based on my review process before I selected a model.
Keep in mind, ATOTO is far from the only brand in town. They are the only affordable dual BT receiver unit I found in the affordable price range though. But, I ended up using a USB OBDII scan tool anyway.
I have a few things on the list that really steer me towards atoto. Customer service, dual BT, 4G cell modem and wireless android auto. I guess Ill have to wait and see what the $ difference is in the Pro and Ultra.
I have a few things on the list that really steer me towards atoto. Customer service, dual BT, 4G cell modem and wireless android auto. I guess Ill have to wait and see what the $ difference is in the Pro and Ultra.
I will put this out there and do what you like with it...
Have you used/tried Android Auto? If you like it, great! If you haven't tried it, I would highly recommend doing that first before banking on it.
We have Android Auto in our 2016 Escape and I really tried to like it. I tried several times on several trips and even just driving around town. I disliked it so much that we bought a wireless cradle for our Samsung S7's to mount over the integrated navigation display in the dash of the Escape.
I just couldn't get used to the "dumbed down" interface of Android Auto. I know that is what it is designed to be though so the driver is not distracted, I just didn't like it is all. Other people love it though, so if you are one of those, press on sir! I would encourage you to try it before you buy it though.
Customer service was top notch. Dual BT is a great feature, 4G connectivity is a nice feature.
It really is a nice head unit with all sorts of versatility and utility. Since I was moving the FORScan data log from the other day to a USB drive I tested the "save to home screen" feature for Google Maps and it works flawlessly.
I have played with AA in the 18' F150. It is not great but its functional. I am hoping that the 4G wireless in the S8 makes using the phone for some of the navigation and other things less important.
I have played with AA in the 18' F150. It is not great but its functional. I am hoping that the 4G wireless in the S8 makes using the phone for some of the navigation and other things less important.
Understood and agree with your reasoning. I am grateful we have choices and options that we do.
Please let us know what you decide on what your thoughts are on the install and product as a whole.
I can help you with the Android emulator on Windows, but not the other way around Leonard. What are the OS requirements of the Turbonator software? Can it run on Windows 7, Linux, Rapberry Pi, etc?
If so, you may be able to use a video input on the ATOTO while running an auxiliary OS.
Thoughts?
Good question. I do not have any of the older versions of Windows to run it on. The Turbonator software comes with a USB driver too so there are some hardware shenanigans to take into account also.
Check into the Raspberry Pi thing, I believe you can run Windows on it and then pipe the video output into the ATOTO A6 video input (there are at least 2). The form factor is tiny and you can hook up a wireless mouse or something to it and go from there. Not something you would want to run all the time, but for logging and data acquisition uses it may work.
USB driver how? Like the software requires a USB connection to the hardware on the turbo itself?
A good friend of mine who is a part time professor at a reputable college in AZ has a few Raspberry Pi and teaches about them during part of his curriculum. If you think the Pi will work, we may be able to tap him for advice or lessons learned. He is one of the people I hope to see this summer during our travels, but he will also be coming to visit and stay for a couple of days at our home in October.
I could not successfully get the existing profile from my tablet transferred over to the Android head unit. Really, I could not figure out how to load a profile from a file folder in FORScan Lite. Maybe Jeff can tell how that is accomplished if he has time in his schedule in the future. I will hold onto the pictures and screenshots I took during the transfer process for a while.
Below are a couple of pictures of the finished product with the side pieces installed from the VX7020 installation kit. I trimmed them up a bit and think they finish the look quite nicely.
Now for the FORScan app running on the head unit. It took me a moment to remember what settings needed to be and this was my first time using the FSL app and a USB cable. I had always used the OBDLink MX in the past, so I scratched my head a moment and figured it out.
The setting I used was "USB FTDI". There were several other USB types, but I could not get the others to work.
I also turned the Auto-connect feature to "connect when app is opened" after first having it set to "connect and run dashboard" as seen in the image below.
If you want FSL to connect and start each time you start the truck, then simply set the Auto-connect to "connect and run dashboard" and it will do that. I do not need FSL each time I start the truck and may only run it every once in a while to log data or just because I feel like it.
The head unit boots up to the main page within 1 second of turning on the ignition and by the time I turn the ignition from start to on, is ready to go for a command or task. Once I push the FSL app button on the main page which is the second button from the right in the screen shot of the home screen below...
The FSL app almost instantly brings up the vehicle information screen as seen below.
From there, I can select dashboard or table based on how I would like to view the PID's I have selected. I trimmed down my list of PID's because I don't need some of the ones I was logging. I also zoomed in a bit which put the less viewed PID's at the bottom of the screen and requires a swipe up. I put MPH and RPM down there. The images below show all of the PID's I am monitoring at the moment for the sake of this post.
I can zoom in and out just like on a smartphone and the interface is very quick to respond, just as it is on a tablet or smartphone.
I now consider this project complete and can now move onto the next project.
I'm just now trying to catch up on this thread. How do those "finish" side trim pieces fit in? Do they snap in place? Are they easy to remove in order to remove the dash bezel? I'm taking notes on the installations hard mounting it behind the bezel instead of too the bezel. I will likely grab one of these Atoto A6's. I will likely have a few questions for you down the road. I'm in the process of dealing with some gauge issues/ideas, but will likely talk to you offline about it.
I'm just now trying to catch up on this thread. How do those "finish" side trim pieces fit in? Do they snap in place? Are they easy to remove in order to remove the dash bezel? I'm taking notes on the installations hard mounting it behind the bezel instead of too the bezel. I will likely grab one of these Atoto A6's. I will likely have a few questions for you down the road. I'm in the process of dealing with some gauge issues/ideas, but will likely talk to you offline about it.
Hey Shane, you may have the opportunity to see the bezel and install in person in June as we may be coming to your area.
To address your questions, the side trim pieces are from the Metra bezel kit I bought and used for the Jensen VX7020 several years ago. That is the head unit I removed and sold locally.
The side trim pieces were cut down a bit with a belt sander turned upside down until they were appropriately sized. I then used some 3M VHB double sided tape to affix them to the outer edges of the OEM bezel.
They absolutely, completely and 100% are unnecessary and are there for aesthetic purposes only. If I hadn't already owned the kit, I would not have paid even $2 for it. Since I was tossing it in the trash, I figured why not see if it works.
Really, mounting the head unit to the OEM bezel or behind it is up to you. Like many, I don't remove my head unit or bezel often, so that was not my primary reason for taking the route I did.
I like that the head unit is more forward, toward the driver than the other method. There were no issues using the Jensen mounted a bit back, just not my choice if it is available.
Have an A6 on the way. Used points from Amazon card used to pay for the single shots... So $170 out the door. Should be able to shoehorn it in and get setup before the trip. Will be much better than having to deal with the separate display for the 5th wheel cameras
Did any of you guys install the A6/S8 screen protectors? I did, after install, and that made it difficult to not get air bubbles underneath it, so it looks terrible. For those who've had these radios for awhile, do the screens scratch easily without the protector?
I don’t use any trim pieces. This may be a deal breaker for some folks, but I don’t really notice it and nobody has ever complained about one I installed for them.
