2020 Order Guide.
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I am considering the Lariat Sport Package (17L) but also want the LED Lighting Package (59Q). The dealer indicated that these two packages could not be combined.
When looking at the Lariat Sport Package is indicates "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only". Does this mean that the Lariat Sport Package includes the LED Lighting Package?
When looking at the Lariat Sport Package is indicates "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only". Does this mean that the Lariat Sport Package includes the LED Lighting Package?
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Thanks for the info and link for pricing. I built a 2020 F-450 Limited but didn't see an option to delete the moonroof on that package, I don't want one either, but I guess that it will be good for resale value. As to gear rations, look at the chart that I posted earlier, the new 10-speed has 3 overdrive gears so you can go with one ratio lower (higher number) that you could with a 6-speed and have about the same final ratio.
I might want to add the snow plow prep but as most of my driving will be without the plow, about half towing a fiver, how bad would the ride be on a F-450 without the plow? Does anyone have experience with this?
I have included my build pricing.
I might want to add the snow plow prep but as most of my driving will be without the plow, about half towing a fiver, how bad would the ride be on a F-450 without the plow? Does anyone have experience with this?
I have included my build pricing.
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I ordered the Heavy duty suspension on my F450 order which is basically the same thing in regards to the springs/ride comfort from my understanding. I currently have a 17 F350 dually with rancho shocks and test drove a F450 with the heavy duty front suspension with my wife before I ordered for the sole purpose of evaluating the ride. I could not tell any signficant difference in the ride between my F350 dually and the F450. My wife felt the same way and she is quite sensitive to that. I ordered a limited too and the leather seats are so much softer than my current Platinum...so that may have made up for a lot of the possible ride difference lol
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My wife and I also test drove a 2019 F-450 Platinum (couldn't find a Limited to drive). It had standard suspension and we thought that it rode about the same as my 2008 F-250, even on California roads. As we are in Truckee (near Lake Tahoe) we sometimes get a lot of snow, up to 2-3' at a time, so having the plow option would be nice.
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This is for a previous poster who said he’s an engineer. When configuring a truck which will be used to occasionally tow, a boat, a horse trailer, & maybe a travel trailer in the future, which wheel and tire combination is optimal? I don’t plan on any off roading, so not considering fx4 w/ A/T tires. All the trucks I configured so far, (F-250 & F-350 4x4, SRW SB) in both Lariat & King Ranch trims with 7.3 gas and 6.7 diesel, they all come w/ 18” wheels standard. The 20” seem to fit the wheel wells better, but that’s cosmetic. I know the bigger wheels make fewer revolutions per mile, & require the higher number axel ratio. Will the truck get significantly better or worse mpg with the standard 18”, or optional 20”? Are they worth the extra $1,300 expense, or is it merely for the perceived cosmetic advantage? Also, found out you can order everything in a King Ranch ultimate package a la carte, thus eliminating the unwanted giant double moon roof. The only thing you’ll miss is the contour (massaging?) seats. Thanks for the order guide, & nada guide.
Last edited by TradingUp?; Sep 2, 2019 at 12:35 PM. Reason: Additional thought
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This is for a previous poster who said he’s an engineer. When configuring a truck which will be used to occasionally tow, a boat, a horse trailer, & maybe a travel trailer in the future, which wheel and tire combination is optimal? I don’t plan on any off roading, so not considering fx4 w/ A/T tires. All the trucks I configured so far, (F-250 & F-350 4x4, SRW SB) in both Lariat & King Ranch trims with 7.3 gas and 6.7 diesel, they all come w/ 18” wheels standard. The 20” seem to fit the wheel wells better, but that’s cosmetic. I know the bigger wheels make fewer revolutions per mile, & require the higher number axel ratio. Will the truck get significantly better or worse mpg with the standard 18”, or optional 20”? Are they worth the extra $1,300 expense, or is it merely for the perceived cosmetic advantage? Also, found out you can order everything in a King Ranch ultimate package a la carte, thus eliminating the unwanted giant double moon roof. The only thing you’ll miss is the contour (massaging?) seats. Thanks for the order guide, & nada guide.
Im not the engineer. I have not looked at the tire size that comes on the 18" wheels, my assumption would be that they are equal in overall dimension to the 20" setup. I have read on here that the 18's give additional payload ability? something like that. Even if you were off roading the FX4 package would do very little for you. Even the so called A/T tires aren't what I consider a true A/T, like a Duratrac or BFG All Terrain. The one item that is helpful off road isn't really even part of the package, its a requirement to select the package, that is the locking rear diff.
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Thanks. I configured all with electronic locking rear diff. It makes sense that the 20" wheels and tires would be a little heavier, and reduce payload by about the same amount. I tried adding all the same options, and surprisingly, there wasn't much dollar difference between F-250 & F-350. If you add the high capacity trailer tow package to F-250 Lariat 6.7L diesel, there's just a $10 difference with F-350 Lariat 6.7L diesel.
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Thanks. I configured all with electronic locking rear diff. It makes sense that the 20" wheels and tires would be a little heavier, and reduce payload by about the same amount. I tried adding all the same options, and surprisingly, there wasn't much dollar difference between F-250 & F-350. If you add the high capacity trailer tow package to F-250 Lariat 6.7L diesel, there's just a $10 difference with F-350 Lariat 6.7L diesel.
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Are you sure?
I read through the 2020 ordering guide included in this thread and could find nothing that listed LED lighting as part of the Sport Package. The description of the Sport Package includes "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only" but this does not mean LED lights are included. Is there something else you know of that specifies LED lights are included with the Sport Package? I understand the 2020 ordering guide might not be 100% accurate or up to date and there are other sources for this information. Thanks.
I read through the 2020 ordering guide included in this thread and could find nothing that listed LED lighting as part of the Sport Package. The description of the Sport Package includes "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only" but this does not mean LED lights are included. Is there something else you know of that specifies LED lights are included with the Sport Package? I understand the 2020 ordering guide might not be 100% accurate or up to date and there are other sources for this information. Thanks.
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Are you sure?
I read through the 2020 ordering guide included in this thread and could find nothing that listed LED lighting as part of the Sport Package. The description of the Sport Package includes "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only" but this does not mean LED lights are included. Is there something else you know of that specifies LED lights are included with the Sport Package? I understand the 2020 ordering guide might not be 100% accurate or up to date and there are other sources for this information. Thanks.
I read through the 2020 ordering guide included in this thread and could find nothing that listed LED lighting as part of the Sport Package. The description of the Sport Package includes "Headlamps - Black out surrounds, LED only" but this does not mean LED lights are included. Is there something else you know of that specifies LED lights are included with the Sport Package? I understand the 2020 ordering guide might not be 100% accurate or up to date and there are other sources for this information. Thanks.
Here is another but similar description. Keep in mind, this is what is included in the package. It could be read as meaning only the headlights are LED, not tail lights etc., or that the headlights only contain LED's, I dont know.
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Thanks. The price difference is a good indicator. I scrolled back through the posts on this thread and found the one where a member ordered a 2020 with the sport package and the dealer told them that LED lights are included. I hope it includes tail lights too. On the 2019, LED lights could not be ordered with the sport package and LED lights also required adding BLIS.