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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
Thanks. The price difference is a good indicator. I scrolled back through the posts on this thread and found the one where a member ordered a 2020 with the sport package and the dealer told them that LED lights are included. I hope it includes tail lights too. On the 2019, LED lights could not be ordered with the sport package and LED lights also required adding BLIS.
One thing I have noticed using these build and price tools is if you check a package the items in the package that are also listed as a stand alone will also be checked. Just our of curiosity I checked the sport package and the LED headlights were not checked off. Take it for what is worth as it may mean nothing.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FishRanger
One thing I have noticed using these build and price tools is if you check a package the items in the package that are also listed as a stand alone will also be checked. Just our of curiosity I checked the sport package and the LED headlights were not checked off. Take it for what is worth as it may mean nothing.
That could be because the black surround housings/w LED are exclusive to the Sport package. The LED package that is available as an option does not have black surrounds.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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That could be because the black surround housings/w LED are exclusive to the Sport package. The LED package that is available as an option does not have black surrounds.
Makes sense.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 07:20 PM
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It's amazing you even have to have this discussion on a $60k or $70k truck when LEDs are becoming standard on a lot of economy vehicles.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by drjcw24
It's amazing you even have to have this discussion on a $60k or $70k truck when LEDs are becoming standard on a lot of economy vehicles.
I agree, they should be standard equipment on at least Lariat and up.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
I agree, they should be standard equipment on at least Lariat and up.
They are standard on the Explorer, Mustang, etc - from basest of base on up. Why be exclusive to the Lariat when it's a safety feature?

Especially XL XLT models, fleet trucks. I don't want my guys trashing a Lariat, OR hitting a deer with a XL.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Axlnut
They are standard on the Explorer, Mustang, etc - from basest of base on up. Why be exclusive to the Lariat when it's a safety feature?

Especially XL XLT models, fleet trucks. I don't want my guys trashing a Lariat, OR hitting a deer with a XL.
You might be surprised to know that some owners have no problem with the standard headlights, just saying. I've never hit a deer in my 16 year old truck with cloudy yellow housings. But, I do think Ford could at least make them standard on the higher trims at least. If not all trims.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ForCal
You might be surprised to know that some owners have no problem with the standard headlights, just saying. I've never hit a deer in my 16 year old truck with cloudy yellow housings. But, I do think Ford could at least make them standard on the higher trims at least. If not all trims.
Yeah.. It's a big country. CA isn't PA.. Deer collisions aren't an occasional thing in our state, they are a multiple times every day on every rural road occurrence.

We're #1 to #3 depending on the year, odds around 1:60

You're #50 with only Hawaii trailing you (they count DC), odds around 1:1,125

 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:20 AM
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For those of you that have ordered a 2020 lariat or king ranch, did you order the adaptive steering option. It looks like to me that it is a stand alone option and not included in the UTTpro Trailer backup assist option. On my 2017 SD it was included in the trailer tow package. I have my dealer looking into this for me.
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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For those of you that have ordered a 2020 lariat or king ranch, did you order the adaptive steering option. It looks like to me that it is a stand alone option and not included in the UTTpro Trailer backup assist option. On my 2017 SD it was included in the trailer tow package. I have my dealer looking into this for me.
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:57 AM
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I have a few questions before I get serious about ordering a 2020 F350 single rear wheel. First is the camper package necessary or advantageous for pulling a fifth wheel? I will be within the weight specs but not by a whole lot with our fifth wheel.

Second, the 18" tires have a lesser weight rating than the 20" by a few hundred pounds. I would like to save a little money if I get a Lariat or KR and just go with the stock tires. Is there any advantage other than looks in going with the 20's?

Last question concerns the electronically locking axle. I hate to show my ignorance but I'm not really sure what it does or what is the advantage. I've only used 4 wheel drive once with my current truck so I'm not sure if I need it or not.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FishRanger
I have a few questions before I get serious about ordering a 2020 F350 single rear wheel. First is the camper package necessary or advantageous for pulling a fifth wheel? I will be within the weight specs but not by a whole lot with our fifth wheel.

Second, the 18" tires have a lesser weight rating than the 20" by a few hundred pounds. I would like to save a little money if I get a Lariat or KR and just go with the stock tires. Is there any advantage other than looks in going with the 20's?

Last question concerns the electronically locking axle. I hate to show my ignorance but I'm not really sure what it does or what is the advantage. I've only used 4 wheel drive once with my current truck so I'm not sure if I need it or not.
The camper package will give you the sway bar. That is helpful pulling the 5th wheel.
Just my opinion but I'm thinking of going with the snow plow for the bigger front Springs and adding a hellwig sway bar. I would rather have the hellwig anyway it's a lot bigger.
You can go snow plow and camper if you don't want to add your own sway bar.

I'm thinking 18's and aftermarket bigger tires that have a 4080# load rating (I forget the size).
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FishRanger
I have a few questions before I get serious about ordering a 2020 F350 single rear wheel. First is the camper package necessary or advantageous for pulling a fifth wheel? I will be within the weight specs but not by a whole lot with our fifth wheel.

Second, the 18" tires have a lesser weight rating than the 20" by a few hundred pounds. I would like to save a little money if I get a Lariat or KR and just go with the stock tires. Is there any advantage other than looks in going with the 20's?

Last question concerns the electronically locking axle. I hate to show my ignorance but I'm not really sure what it does or what is the advantage. I've only used 4 wheel drive once with my current truck so I'm not sure if I need it or not.
The only real advantage with going with the 20" wheels is the shorter sidewall of the tire will help with trailer sway and add stability when towing.

The electronic locking rear diff is nice in cases where you're going over very uneven roads that may lift your drive wheel off or nearly off the ground. You can just pull out the **** and you'll get traction with the other tire. If you dont do any off roading where this will happen you probably dont need it but it's not that expensive of an upgrade and may pay for itself even if you only need it once.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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Last question concerns the electronically locking axle. I hate to show my ignorance but I'm not really sure what it does or what is the advantage. I've only used 4 wheel drive once with my current truck so I'm not sure if I need it or not.
In general terms, the rear differential design sends power to the wheel with the least resistance. If you are in a situation where the right wheel is on a slippery surface (snow, ice, mud, etc) and the left is on a surface with better traction (dry pavement), the right wheel will just spin and you will go nowhere. That is an extreme case. A more subtle case is pulling your trailer up an incline and the road or parking lot is gravel or stone. If one wheel starts to slip on the stone it could lose traction enough that wheel spin develops. You end up going nowhere. Lock the differential and both wheels will get power which may get you out of the situation. If you don’t get 4WD, I would definitely recommend getting the locking rear differential.

 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 11:24 AM
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I know what you mean. I just ordered mine last Friday and was basing my numbers off of the 19 invoice and when he showed me the $96k ($89k after X-plan and PCO) I sent him back to get me the real price. He came back with the same figures and said invoice went up almost $5k and I had to change the paint b/c they got rid of the Silver Spruce in 20 for the Limited!!
 
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