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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Skai
I agree with this. RAM has been really RAMping (lol) their game and killing it. The sooner the better.
If I'm not mistaken, RAM didnt unveil their 2019 heavy duty trucks till 2019 (Feb 19?), and didnt hit lots till the spring..
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TradingUp?
There must be quite a few fleet outfits waiting on the fence to hear numbers for the new gas big block, before deciding which of the big three gets their contracts..
I can almost guarantee that fleets are not waiting on any fence to hear horsepower or torque numbers for the new gas block.

The numbers fleets might be waiting for are pricing, and date of delivery.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
I can almost guarantee that fleets are not waiting on any fence to hear horsepower or torque numbers for the new gas block.

The numbers fleets might be waiting for are pricing, and date of delivery.

The numbers fleets would like, in an ideal world, to know is fuel economy, but fleets know that Ford doesn't have to publish those numbers over over 8,500 GVW.R
The hp and torque numbers have been out on the 7.3l, the diesel ratings are tbd.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Yes, I’m aware that hp & torque for the 7.3 are known, but not towing & payload. None of those numbers are known yet about the diesel. Your point about pricing and delivery date being more important to fleet procurers is well taken. If a fire department’s old ambulances were running V-10 gas engines before, they’re likely to just order the 7.3 gas to replace them. Surely, William Clay Ford could care less about one individual potential customer who’s trying to decide between gas or diesel, Lariat or K.R., and wheel size, while wondering if his almost 16 year old truck will make it past Christmas. If not, he’ll just have to buy a 2020 Government Motors already on a lot.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TradingUp?
Something’s happening @ Ford.com. Think they’re finally updating the site to include the 2020 SDs in their build and price. Tried clicking on it under future vehicles & got an error message page, “sometimes things just don’t go as planned”. Marketing Dept’s Amy confirmed they are updating it today. Hopefully, the new towing and payload capabilities for both redesigned PS diesel and new 7.3L gas big block will be revealed.
Roger that, same same here...
 
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
I can almost guarantee that fleets are not waiting on any fence to hear horsepower or torque numbers for the new gas block.

The numbers fleets might be waiting for are pricing, and date of delivery.
Concur!

I already KNOW the Diesel HP/Torque numbers and anyone who does not must be driving a Chev or something.

Hp/Torque = MORE than last year, good enough for me
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 02:16 PM
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@17 Oaks what is the x-plan? order form from my dealer, tremor package is 3617, invoice.
 
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Anyone know if the Tremor will still have hill descent control? Doesn't seem to mention it anywhere, adds or package description but Fx4 does
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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Anyone know if the Tremor will still have hill descent control? Doesn't seem to mention it anywhere, adds or package description but Fx4 does
I was thinking about that this morning...I imagine you don't need it with the rock crawl and trail control modes.
 
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Concur!

I already KNOW the Diesel HP/Torque numbers and anyone who does not must be driving a Chev or something.

Hp/Torque = MORE than last year, good enough for me
Oh I can't wait that long
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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I was thinking about that this morning...I imagine you don't need it with the rock crawl and trail control modes.

Thats kind if what hat I was thinking too. All hill descent does is apply the brakes right?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 05:16 PM
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Thats kind if what hat I was thinking too. All hill descent does is apply the brakes right?
Yea that's it. Pretty rudimentary compared to the other two systems it seems.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 08:20 AM
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@17 Oaks what is the x-plan? order form from my dealer, tremor package is 3617, invoice.
IIRC it’s .4% below invoice
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 08:35 AM
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Thanks for the responses. Anyone know if you are able to delete the sunroof now on a platinum but still get adaptive cruise and all that. Or if Ford finally improved the design for 2020?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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According to nada, you can delete the moon roof on the platinum. Optional by itself.
 
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