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Ford called electronic shift on the fly 4x4 "ESOF", and we used to call manual shift on the floor 4x4 "MSOF".
Calling it "manual shift on stop" is a misnomer, because the transfer case doesn't shift into 4Lo too well on "stop". One should be in neutral, and rolling about 1 mph for optimal manual shifting both into and out of 4x4... never "stopped".
Calling it "manual shift on stop" is a misnomer, because the transfer case doesn't shift into 4Lo too well on "stop". One should be in neutral, and rolling about 1 mph for optimal manual shifting both into and out of 4x4... never "stopped".
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That’s amazing
I have 4 dealer in a 50 mile radius none of them can order a truck until ford release it. Did they give any paperwork.
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Ford called electronic shift on the fly 4x4 "ESOF", and we used to call manual shift on the floor 4x4 "MSOF".
Calling it "manual shift on stop" is a misnomer, because the transfer case doesn't shift into 4Lo too well on "stop". One should be in neutral, and rolling about 1 mph for optimal manual shifting both into and out of 4x4... never "stopped".
Calling it "manual shift on stop" is a misnomer, because the transfer case doesn't shift into 4Lo too well on "stop". One should be in neutral, and rolling about 1 mph for optimal manual shifting both into and out of 4x4... never "stopped".
Everybody (including myself) just lock the hubs in and leave them until we think we won't need 4wd. I think Ford is just trying to keep people from taking the mileage hit from having the front end spinning all the time.
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The question to ask is this.. Is the 10 speed’s final gear ratio the same as the 6 speed, or is it different?
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You've got to be kidding. And go back to a 17-19? Likely used? Or a pre-17 that’s shorter? Or a Dodge that’s shorter. Or a Chevy that’s shorter? Two measly inches in a truck so high it gives you nosebleeds? Go add a $400 level if you need to feel taller than the rest.
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Agree, I'm not seeing how people are ordering yet - I was at my dealer yesterday and they have ZERO pricing or even order sheets - in Arizona.
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Really disappointed that they made no changes to the interior to try to match up to Ram. Being that I cannot afford to jump thru a truck every year or 2, I was hoping for some new tech other than the archaic 8" Sync3 system. Might have to jump my loyalty lines, sucks...
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Wow - that's awesome - good to see options and prices with X-plan - that's almost exact truck I'm looking at and I also have Xplan..thanks!!! now to find a dealer in AZ that can get into this...
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Just ordered my Rapid Red F450 limited today. Order accepted and confirmed. Roughly $95k MSRP, got X plan plus a $2,000 PCO. Final price $87,500. I'm happy! Saw a 2020 explorer with that color at the dealer....wow it's a beautiful color.