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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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I'm curious now about what axle might have been ordered for this truck. The pumpkin is much bigger than I expected and since 1500 gallons of water weighs 12k lbs, it's unlikely that this truck stays under that published 20k GVW when full of water. I haven't weighed the truck, but I'm sure it's more than 8k empty. Since the axle's electric shift motor was under water for 2 weeks, I guess I should pull it off and give it a careful teardown and cleaning too.
See if you can find the rear axle ID tag. Once it's decoded, you'll know what it is and what it was originally installed in.

Pic: Eliminate the top two (Ford & Dana/Spicer), these were installed in F100/350's. Pic is from the 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog.

Also see post #1050.

 
Old Apr 23, 2019 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpilotron
Whoa! 1967 is a surprise. I've been looking for 1976 parts. Somebody was dyslexic on the date. No wonder nothing else is making sense. I'm not surprised this came from KC and was ordered in Omaha. The fire truck spent it's whole life within 100 miles of Omaha and was owned by the Herman Rural Fire District, which is a tiny farming village just north of Omaha.
Note: The last 6 digits of the VIN could decode to 1967 or 1976, but this truck was assembled in Kansas City.

By the late 1960's, most 500 and larger series trucks were assembled at the Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant.

1967's are oddballs, they look like 1968/72's but looks can be deceiving.

1967 F100/750: You push the inside door handles forward to lock the doors, 1968 and later have door lock *****.
 
Old Apr 23, 2019 | 10:42 PM
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this is the only photo I have of it. Is there anything that removes all doubt about the year?
 
Old Apr 23, 2019 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpilotron

this is the only photo I have of it. Is there anything that removes all doubt about the year?
I see two things...
Hood side emblem is 1967 only, 1968 and later has a yellow reflector lens.

This is a "Bumpside" .. so called because of the raised scallop line that runs thru the middle of the body. Bumpsides are 1967/72 F100/750's.

Here's a pic of the Bumpside door...notice the raised scallop line.


 
Old Apr 24, 2019 | 01:17 PM
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ND has the year down pat.
As for the rear axle it looks like a 15.5 or 17.5k axle depending on what size the studs are that hold the axles in.
Many of the old F-600's around here had Eaton axles but Rockwells where also used.
Look for a tag on the axle housing.
A friend had 68 and 69 F-600's with 10 ft dump beds, they weighed around 9000 lbs so yours won't be off to much.
Back when those trucks were being used daily the gvw rating wasn't a big concern like it is today.
 
Old Apr 24, 2019 | 03:46 PM
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Do you know how many f600 crew cabs where built in 1972
 
Old Apr 24, 2019 | 05:53 PM
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So after some net searching I have found a few GVW numbers, the 1975 roadway museum truck is very similar to mine, 12300lbs but 206wb compared to my 187wb. Also the previously mentioned 1965 C700 with 16' flat bed with a sticker weight of 10980 (thunderguns71) and somewhat comparable the 1968/69 F600's mentioned by Destroked 450 coming in @9000lbs. And one U-ship listing showing a near identical truck with an @13500lb listed, but with dual tanks and dual 8' long tool boxes.

Now after looking at the GVW sticker on the truck I have been looking at, it has the front showing 3175kg/7000lbs, and the rear has 7330kg/16159lbs, which makes me wonder if the 608kg/1340lbs missing from a 17500lb rear axle is due to the weight of the van body and lift gate on it currently.

Which leaves me with 10980lb-12300lb range, although the f600 weight of 9000 makes me wonder even more, the 10980 would work as it is so close to the 4500kg/9920lb area. It also means an aluminum bed to meet the desired weight.

Kind of wish there was some listing for bare cab and chassis weight, as getting the beast to a scale prior to purchase is near impossible.
 
Old Apr 24, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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Axle rating is not effected by the body that's on the truck.
When Ford built these trucks they where all cab and chassis, the bed's or body's where installed by outside venders or by the person that purchased the truck new.
15.5k and 17.5k axles are the ones I'm familiar with, there are others.
I could be wrong about the 15.5 axle and it only be a 15K, mid 80's when I last worked on them.
My friend had 3 beds he swapped back and forth on his trucks depending on the season, dump box for rock and asphalt, lime spreader bed for area farmers, dump flat with removable sides and fold down racks, remove the sides for hauling equipment, use the sides for hauling grain, fold up the racks to haul live stock, they stayed busy year round hauling one thing or the other.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by garanda

Do you know how many F600 crew cabs where built in 1972?
No, and there's no way to find out. FoMoCo THREW AWAY all the 1967/79 500 and larger series truck records in the late 1980's.
 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 08:04 PM
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Going to go look at this truck this weekend... I didn't really get any particular information on the truck from the guy I work with, other than it's his brothers, it's a pto/hydraulic dump bed and was wanting to sell it.

Any info from the VIN?



 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtbag
Going to go look at this truck this weekend... I didn't really get any particular information on the truck from the guy I work with, other than it's his brothers, it's a pto/hydraulic dump bed and was wanting to sell it.

Any info from the VIN?

F61 = F600 2WD (gas).

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine.

C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.

N26688 = 1972.

156" Wheelbase.

V = Dark Green.

F612 = F600 2WD (gas), 23000 lbs. GVWR

4B8: 4B = Black Heavy Duty Vinyl / 8 = 81A Standard Cab.

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

E2D:

E2 = Eaton model 16244 Two Speed Rear Axle / 6.17/8.58 / 17,500 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

D = Ford-Rockwell/Timken 7,000 lbs. Capacity Front Axle.

23,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

164 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

451487:

45 = Lansing MI Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

1487 = Domestic Special Order number, truck ordered special by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."
 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtbag
Going to go look at this truck this weekend... I didn't really get any particular information on the truck from the guy I work with, other than it's his brothers, it's a pto/hydraulic dump bed and was wanting to sell it.

Any info from the VIN?

That cab looks to be in very good condition. Watch out for the wheels to be "widow makers". If anyone doesn't know what that is, Google it. They are pretty much impossible to get any tire shop to work on them because they kill people. I can't tell for sure by the picture if they are or aren't. If the rim has a lock ring with about a 1/4 inch gap in it, you're good to go. If the outer ring is solid all the way around, plan on replacing the rims.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2019 | 01:42 PM
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Hi Bill-
Here is the VIN for my 1995 F700 Dump Truck. 1FDNF70J7SVA74541. I am looking for the part numbers for the front caliper assemblies and hardware part numbers that would be required to mount the new calipers to the caliper brackets. I may be wrong but I believe on my truck there is only one caliper part number as the caliper can be used on the left and right side? Also OEM part number for the brake pads. I have the Dayton wheels on my truck from the factory and that should be reflected in the VIN.
Thanks in advance for all your help and I hope this help is not keeping you tooooooo busy as it looks like many have asked for and needed you assistance.
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Old Apr 26, 2019 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RRRAVEN
Hi Bill-
Here is the VIN for my 1995 F700 Dump Truck. 1FDNF70J7SVA74541. I am looking for the part numbers for the front caliper assemblies and hardware part numbers that would be required to mount the new calipers to the caliper brackets. I may be wrong but I believe on my truck there is only one caliper part number as the caliper can be used on the left and right side? Also OEM part number for the brake pads. I have the Dayton wheels on my truck from the factory and that should be reflected in the VIN.
Thanks in advance for all your help and I hope this help is not keeping you tooooooo busy as it looks like many have asked for and needed you assistance.
RRRAVEN
I cannot help you at the present time, all my 1990 and later catalogs are on microfiche. My viewer bulb burned out and I haven't found a replacement yet.

Either go to NAPA or call Green Sales (800-543-4959) in Cincinnati OH and ask for assistance. Green Sales has the largest stock of Ford obsolete parts in the world.
 
Old Apr 26, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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What bulb number do you need. I have a few and can check and will send to you for nothing if I have the correct one?
 



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