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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001400ex
Show me an 8% 10 mile grade there a truck and trailer can pull at 60mph the entire pull and I will take a personal foul, 15 yards.
Looked to me like you called BS on a 10 mile 8% grade, and even on an elevation over 4200 ft, in the Eastern US. Now your saying it also has to be one that a truck and trailer can run 60 mph on? Almost looks like you're trying to move the goal posts.

I have no doubt there are 10 mile 8% grades, and elevations over 4200 ft, in the Appalachians, but I'll let Josh say if and where there's one he can run 60 mph on.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Unfortunately some dude here use the same measuring tape they use with their wives, you know the ones that say 4 inches is 8.
hahahah, very true
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
Thats why we got out the measuring tape.
Whatever you're measuring must be in single digit mm's judging by the posts lately.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by David N.
Looked to me like you called BS on a 10 mile 8% grade, and even on an elevation over 4200 ft, in the Eastern US. Now your saying it also has to be one that a truck and trailer can run 60 mph on? Almost looks like you're trying to move the goal posts.

I have no doubt there are 10 mile 8% grades, and elevations over 4200 ft, in the Appalachians, but I'll let Josh say if and where there's one he can run 60 mph on.
That's what Josh said a page or two back, no moving goal posts here.

Sorry on cell phone and some posts were when I was in the air on a plane, hard to type. And bill I will watch your new video when I get home.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
My V10 is the only modular I've owned, but it will (and has) easily revved past 5,000 rpm. For those that cannot get one to go that high, might I suggest trying the pedal on the right. Also, I'm having trouble sifting through the jibberish, but if exiled is trying to say that neither his '07 or '10 Mustangs will rev past 5K, he seriously needs to learn to drive. They go waaaaay higher than that!
What jibberish you start thinking again? That's exactly what I'm saying. Now I understand what you said about your v10 being the only modular you've owned. That in no way means the only one you've driven. But I want to know who has let you out stressing the rev limiter on their 10 mustang? Well in the morning I stress it for ya. Brother I sure wish we lived close enough together I'd teach you how to drive. What's waaaay past 5000? Just for the record.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
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Did not blow up this one.
Funny how much better they work when they have oil.

75 is 4750 RPM.
80 is 5070
85 is 5385

I was planing on hitting the rev limiter and then running 75 for anouther minute or two, but I had to slow down fast.
Came up to a hill and the radar detector started flashing at me. Sure enough, 2 troopers over the next hill so I had to end the run there.

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This was try number one for those that missed it.
Hey Bill I can't find this video. Can ya help me out? I searched youtube by your name and watched your other ones. The one you say you locked up hit 5k rpm but not passed it. I wouldn't have thought that it would have held at 5k. Is at the end of the video when it locked up?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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I don't think running at 5k is the issue, its running at 5k for an extended period with a full load going uphill.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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What would even be the point of Revving that high?? Isn't that beyond the Max HP and Torque?? I will change my view on this if corrected down the line, But if it is beyond the max HP and Torque, then wouldn't that be fighting the acceleration?? Sand_man, Just learn to drive. there is no need to hit 5K+ in any situation short of the 1/8 mile drag.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 01:17 AM
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Bill, just watched the video. I give you props for videoing that. Now, put a full load behind you, hit a hill, and run it that way for 20 minutes. Hehe
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by truckerboy
What would even be the point of Revving that high?? Isn't that beyond the Max HP and Torque?? I will change my view on this if corrected down the line, But if it is beyond the max HP and Torque, then wouldn't that be fighting the acceleration?? Sand_man, Just learn to drive. there is no need to hit 5K+ in any situation short of the 1/8 mile drag.
I'm just commenting on exiled's claim that modular-motored Fords (including his Mustang) cannot rev beyond 5,000 rpms. That's a total lie. ANY modular Ford from the 4.6 to the 6.8 V10 can easily exceed 5,000 under power. Do I need to rev it in normal use? Not even. Do I tow like that? No I do not, but I have seen it on my tach just for thrills. I've also drag-raced enough to know that pretty much anything but a diesel, or a Harley (same thing, lots of noise from both the vehicle and the owner ) will rev past that mark as well.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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I, personally would never just blatantly run my truck or any truck that high in the rpm range to "just prove a point". That bein said, with my 2003 F-150 (5.4) with a trailer and fullsize chevy mudracer on it, I have turned in the 5's on some big hills. I didnt like it but I was tryin to keep up with my cousins D-Max as he had the directions. I also believe that if you are workin the engine (pullin, haulin, etc) it is easier on it than free revving it pointlessly "to prove it will spin 900,000 rpm". Bottom line is my diesel pulls nice and low, and without all the "is it gonna come apart drama" (of course I got a 6.0 so.....it may come apart sittin in the drive without lookin at it.). I would'nt mind a V10 either, the truck I liked just had a psd in it! They are both great workhorses that have different characteristics.

O and it seems that whether I was drivin my friends v10, cousins Dmax, 5.3 chevy, my psd, or my ol 5.4, just let the truck work at its pace. They are all happy pullin at different rpm's The 5.3 was happier revvin at redline, my 5.4 would pull good into the 3ish rpm than fall on its face my powerstroke (for a diesel) likes a little more revs than the Dmax. I guess what I am sayin is there is no point revvin to 5,000 if the truck quits pullin hard at 3,500. Just let the engine and trans do there job and run the truck where it is happy and dont worry about beatin it needlessly.
 

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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
I'm just commenting on exiled's claim that modular-motored Fords (including his Mustang) cannot rev beyond 5,000 rpms. That's a total lie. ANY modular Ford from the 4.6 to the 6.8 V10 can easily exceed 5,000 under power. Do I need to rev it in normal use? Not even. Do I tow like that? No I do not, but I have seen it on my tach just for thrills. I've also drag-raced enough to know that pretty much anything but a diesel, or a Harley (same thing, lots of noise from both the vehicle and the owner ) will rev past that mark as well.
OK, was thinking that you meant thats how you always drive.
I am unsure of which ones exactly, but there are several medium V8's that redline the factory tach at 4500. I know the 305 in dads old chevy did. I just dont see the point of revving that far up.
Even in the 460, Its always out of 1st and second at 4500 or less. These big engines need their fuel and oil, at at high RPM, they will starve for both.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Everyone calm down and keep this somewhat on topic
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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on topic

I know, and sorry. I was nowhere near on topic, I just dont see how runnin your baby to a million rpm"s proves anything. Hook a trailer and let the engine stick up for itself!
 
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Old Dec 4, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sand_Man
I'm just commenting on exiled's claim that modular-motored Fords (including his Mustang) cannot rev beyond 5,000 rpms. That's a total lie. ANY modular Ford from the 4.6 to the 6.8 V10 can easily exceed 5,000 under power. Do I need to rev it in normal use? Not even. Do I tow like that? No I do not, but I have seen it on my tach just for thrills. I've also drag-raced enough to know that pretty much anything but a diesel, or a Harley (same thing, lots of noise from both the vehicle and the owner ) will rev past that mark as well.
And yall say I don't understand anything. I wasn't saying the engines could not rev that high. I said the rev limter would stop it. If your arguing that the engine can physical rev that high then I argue. But what's the point if the system won't let it. I'm getting ready now to go for a drive. At the moment I'm trying to figure out how to do this. Hold the phone and change gears. I don't want to hear any garbage about broken video feeds or anything else.
Spelling doesnt make the world go around.
 
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