Emergency advice needed
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From: Payson, AZ
Originally Posted by Vinford
Ok I filled the HPOP again and plugged in the ICP just to try it?
It started ..............could it have been just low on oil?
It started ..............could it have been just low on oil?
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Cargo Master
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From: Williams Lake B.C.
BAD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had it sitting there idling and warming up , I was going to go for a drive and see how it was.
It quit.
I could hear something like water running , I went around to passengers side and every bit of oil out of the engine was on the ground?
Looks to have come from behind the starter somewhere?
I had it sitting there idling and warming up , I was going to go for a drive and see how it was.
It quit.
I could hear something like water running , I went around to passengers side and every bit of oil out of the engine was on the ground?
Looks to have come from behind the starter somewhere?
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From: La La Land
Whaaaa?
It will die when it gets low on oil. That's a GOOD thing, and a safety factor. Certainly not "every bit" of oil was dumped. There's still a few quarts in it.
OK, let's find the oil leak. That will get you on the road again.
Start with putting enough oil back in it to be seen on the dipstick. Also, fill the HPOP reservoir to within an inch or so of the top. That will allow it to start so we can find the leak.
Pop
It will die when it gets low on oil. That's a GOOD thing, and a safety factor. Certainly not "every bit" of oil was dumped. There's still a few quarts in it.
OK, let's find the oil leak. That will get you on the road again.
Start with putting enough oil back in it to be seen on the dipstick. Also, fill the HPOP reservoir to within an inch or so of the top. That will allow it to start so we can find the leak.
Pop
Post Fiend
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From: Payson, AZ
Originally Posted by Vinford
BAD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had it sitting there idling and warming up , I was going to go for a drive and see how it was.
It quit.
I could hear something like water running , I went around to passengers side and every bit of oil out of the engine was on the ground?
Looks to have come from behind the starter somewhere?
I had it sitting there idling and warming up , I was going to go for a drive and see how it was.
It quit.
I could hear something like water running , I went around to passengers side and every bit of oil out of the engine was on the ground?
Looks to have come from behind the starter somewhere?
Of the next Riffraff East
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From: Concord NC
Did you have an oil leak before your visit to the dealership? Wonder if they started disconnecting stuff thinking you were just gonna bend over for them to put a new HPOP on? Sounds like a line is off or disconnected.
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Cargo Master
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From: Williams Lake B.C.
It took a matter of minutes for it to pump that oil out on the ground.
It "gushed" from somewhere?
Its coming from behind the starter and it feels dry above the starter.
Its kind of hard to get under as its parked in the mud and now theres a huge puddle of oil mixed with the mud.
I looked up top and I cant see anywhere it came from.
It "gushed" from somewhere?
Its coming from behind the starter and it feels dry above the starter.
Its kind of hard to get under as its parked in the mud and now theres a huge puddle of oil mixed with the mud.
I looked up top and I cant see anywhere it came from.
Of the next Riffraff East
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From: Concord NC
It most likely from you HPOP or the lines coming from it. They may have removed a plug or line somewhere on the rails to install a test gauge and never put in back in.
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Cargo Master
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From: Williams Lake B.C.
So i cant see any lines off.
Is there a oil line to the turbo?
It has to be a major hole somewhere as it took only a few minutes for it to pump it all out.
When you say "on the rails" what do you mean?
Is there a oil line to the turbo?
It has to be a major hole somewhere as it took only a few minutes for it to pump it all out.
When you say "on the rails" what do you mean?
Of the next Riffraff East
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From: Concord NC
The High Pressure Oil Pump has lines coming out of it and connects to the oil rails. the drivers side rail has the ICP mounted in it. There are also a couple of test plugs on each rail that is sealed with orings. Any of these can leak, break or come loose.
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Cargo Master
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From: Williams Lake B.C.
So what would your advice be?
I visually looked and cant see anything.
Should I fill everything up again and try and start it and see if i can figure out where its coming from?
I visually looked and cant see anything.
Should I fill everything up again and try and start it and see if i can figure out where its coming from?
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From: Memphis, TN
Could they have taken the rear plug(s) out of the rail to check HPOP pressure. Not sure if that is the way to check it but worth a look to check for those plugs being in place. The plug is on both sides...straight back on the rails under/near the turbo parts. In Barry's pic above...you can see the drivers side on at the very top of the pic (gold colored) with what looks like a red line running near it. In Barry's case, he looks to have an HPX crossover in the plug...you would have what just looks like the head of a bolt. The one on the passenger side is directly across from the one on the drivers side. Easy to see if it is leaking...no need to remove anything so see it. Oil leaked from here will run down the back side of the engine pretty quickly. Maybe a long shot...but just throwing in my 2 cents. I had a small leak there last week and have had 2-3 small puddles every time I part until I fixed the leak and also all of the oil makes its way off the engine.
Post Fiend
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From: Middle Tennessee
Look in your valley just under the turbo/pedestal assembly. I bet there is oil there as I believe your leak is up top. It drains down a hole at the rear of the passenger side of the valley from what we typically call an intake manifold on gassers. I am thinking HPO system leak somewhere. Check the whole valley and the HPOP area itself. Remember the fan will blow a lot of leaks straight back.
Good news is that you will have a simple leak fix when you find it as I doubt there is a hole in your block.
Good news is that you will have a simple leak fix when you find it as I doubt there is a hole in your block.
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From: SE Wisco
Originally Posted by GRECO
Scott, The #30 fuse, is that the one under the dash or in the engine compartment.
Rick
Rick
Congrats on getting it started!!! If I were a betting man I would guess the stealer didn't put a test plug back in or they put the plug in finger tight and the 7.3 rattle shook it loose or they put a plug/line back in with the original oring and it f'ed to oring up.
At least you don't need an HPOP!!! (That could be a bad thing if you wanted big oil
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