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Mar 12, 2008 | 06:32 PM

#16

Vinford

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Most of the guys on the forum call it labor!

And the diffrence is ?

Mar 12, 2008 | 06:34 PM

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zx250

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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD

IPC was a typo. ICP is Injector Control Pressure sensor. Sends pressure reading to PCM.

Opps, yep, that's what I meant.

Mar 12, 2008 | 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinford

Most of the guys on the forum call it labor!

And the diffrence is ?

You don't say eh do you?

I'm sorry, enough of the Canada stuff.

Did you do the fuse yet?!?!

Mar 12, 2008 | 06:41 PM

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zx250

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Originally Posted by Vinford

Its a Ford Dealer that checked it out.

Well, that would sure make me feel better. NOT. Get them to give you the list of codes they are using to make there call.

Mar 12, 2008 | 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sflem849

You don't say eh do you?

I'm sorry, enough of the Canada stuff.

Did you do the fuse yet?!?!

Nope trucks still in transit..................Its comming.
I suppose you say check instead of cheque?, or goodnite instead of goodnight?

But even if you spell funny I appreciate the southern help.

Mar 12, 2008 | 06:53 PM

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GregN

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Yeah, make sure they give you the codes they pulled. It could end up being something really simple and cheap to fix.

Mar 12, 2008 | 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinford

Nope trucks still in transit..................Its comming.
I suppose you say check instead of cheque?, or goodnite instead of goodnight?

But even if you spell funny I appreciate the southern help.

Just be glad I don't spell like I talk. None of you folks would be able to understand me.

If you want a little more info on the HPOP, IPR, ICP you can go here: http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-06-08.php

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page there is a guide to the 7.3 HPOP. It will explain what the different pieces do as well as where some of the O-rings are if they ever need to be replaced due to an oil leak.

Mar 12, 2008 | 07:48 PM

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Ok I got the truck and the $300 bill.
Here what they say they did ..........

scan test KOEO-pass
KOEC-P0381 PO603 Monitor Sensors RPM OK
VPWR-OK
ICP at 230 psi (needs 500 psi to start)
High pressure oil test block off heads test for leaks. Ok
Dead Hi-prepump still at 230 psi needs2500-3000 psi
Remove and test IPR-ok
Noticed ICPsensor leaking oil and connector contaminaited.
Push truck out of shop.

So thats what they did.

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Mar 12, 2008 | 07:54 PM

#24

zx250

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinford

Ok I got the truck and the $300 bill.
.................Noticed ICPsensor leaking oil and connector contaminaited........

That is probably your problem. If it has a leak, then it is not reading properly and everything else responds to what the ICP thinks its sees.

Mar 12, 2008 | 07:54 PM

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Is there oil in the HPOP reservoir? It should be within 1" of the top. Try unplugging the ICP and see if it starts then. I'll go look at my manual and see if I can come up with any more ideas.

Mar 12, 2008 | 07:56 PM

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UcaN

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I believe oil in the ICP sensor is a tell tale sign it is bad..... but not sure. Hopefully someone will verify this.

Mar 12, 2008 | 08:01 PM

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zx250

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Originally Posted by UcaN

I believe oil in the ICP sensor is a tell tale sign it is bad..... but not sure. Hopefully someone will verify this.

True, if the ICP has a pin hole in it, it can't read the pressures, Do like Chris said, unplug the ICP and see if it will crank. Won't run good, but should crank. It would be worth the gamble of replacing a $60.00 part before spending several thousand.

Mar 12, 2008 | 08:04 PM

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I'll stick with the recommendations in my last post. As for your trouble codes the 603 is a keep alive memory (KAM) error. Pretty common, especially if your batteries have been disconnected recently. The other code DTC P0381 is set when the PCM detects a malfunction in the glow plug indicator lamp circuit.

Does your wait to start light come on? This could just be a blown fuse for the dash light. Do you know where the ICP is to unplug?

Mar 12, 2008 | 08:08 PM

#29

Vinford

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From: Williams Lake B.C.

Wheres the ICP?
My glow plug lights work fine.
The batteries were probably low from me trying to start it.

Mar 12, 2008 | 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zx250

It would be worth the gamble of replacing a $60.00 part before spending several thousand.

It was a $170.00 from my local Ford dealer. I definitely agree with Chris unhook the ICP when my failed I unplugged it and the truck would start the SES light would stay on but it would run.