Chevy vs. Ford ??? or....
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
Ford has the most owners, of course they'll have the most loyalty!
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
So Ford dominates in sales and in loyalty. That says even more for their product and how the consumers rate it compared to the competition.
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/otf0999.html (I know I used this in another thread but it applies here too)
According to your logic GM and Ford are equal.
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How do you figure?
As far as trucks go, at the make level, ford owns the loyalty with 57.5% of buyers returning to buy another one. Sales figures are nowhere near close, not even if you combine Chevy and GMC. That's domination of the truck market.
As far as trucks go, at the make level, ford owns the loyalty with 57.5% of buyers returning to buy another one. Sales figures are nowhere near close, not even if you combine Chevy and GMC. That's domination of the truck market.
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Originally Posted by FordLariat
How do you figure?
As far as trucks go, at the make level, ford owns the loyalty with 57.5% of buyers returning to buy another one. Sales figures are nowhere near close, not even if you combine Chevy and GMC. That's domination of the truck market.
As far as trucks go, at the make level, ford owns the loyalty with 57.5% of buyers returning to buy another one. Sales figures are nowhere near close, not even if you combine Chevy and GMC. That's domination of the truck market.
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Originally Posted by DMAX-HD
Not sure where you learned math. But within 9,000 units is a pretty close margin. Especially when you consider has a new 1/2 ton with strong sales.
But if it was only Chevy it would be pitiful, and if it was GMC then it would be even worse. Actually it is pretty sad that Chevy and GMC combined can't beat Ford's ONE line of trucks with their TWO.
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Originally Posted by MW95F250
But if it was only Chevy it would be pitiful, and if it was GMC then it would be even worse. Actually it is pretty sad that Chevy and GMC combined can't beat Ford's ONE line of trucks with their TWO.
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I've actually seen several people do the exact opposite, trade Dmaxs in for 6.0L's and are happy with no problems.
There are still a lot of people who believe the Dmax is no better than the 6.2 or 6.5, but even myself, a Ford man, will admit the Dmax is better than GM's last 3 attempts at making a decent diesel, reason being I have a considerable amount of experience with the 6.2L diesel in one of our farm trucks.
However, I am not sold on the thought that Isuzus are more reliable, in comparison to the other diesel mfg's out there such as Cat and JD and Detroit, Cummins too.
There are still a lot of people who believe the Dmax is no better than the 6.2 or 6.5, but even myself, a Ford man, will admit the Dmax is better than GM's last 3 attempts at making a decent diesel, reason being I have a considerable amount of experience with the 6.2L diesel in one of our farm trucks.
However, I am not sold on the thought that Isuzus are more reliable, in comparison to the other diesel mfg's out there such as Cat and JD and Detroit, Cummins too.
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I agree with MW95F250. Lot of 6.0l out there with no problems. People think that theyll have problems forever. Far from the truth. Performance wise the 6.0l will eat the cummins and duramaxes lunch. There an awesome motor. And dont forget nothing matches the superduty truck. Its the one everybody compares too. The chevies are too low for any serious heavy farm work where I am from. The superduty is a work truck made to work. GM and dodge isnt.
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Originally Posted by 150ford
I agree with MW95F250. Lot of 6.0l out there with no problems. People think that theyll have problems forever. Far from the truth. Performance wise the 6.0l will eat the cummins and duramaxes lunch. There an awesome motor. And dont forget nothing matches the superduty truck. Its the one everybody compares too. The chevies are too low for any serious heavy farm work where I am from. The superduty is a work truck made to work. GM and dodge isnt.
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Hey Mr. Goodwrench glad you checked in here to keep me in line. The newer HD 2001 up are actually lower than the older GM HDs. No problem with them. These newer ones are actually several inches lower with the cross frame in the middle and a front bumper thats too low to the ground. Hey Chevy should raise there trucks some what. Maybe the newer style will. One big reason why these superduties are such a popular truck is there higher stance the way a good truck should be. Hey Mr. Goodwrench I stand by what I say. Keep responding to me if I get out of line again. Thanks. Some of the places I travel on a chevy would get high centered a superduty wouldnt.
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Originally Posted by SuperDutyHaulin
The reason they are lower is so it drives more like a car. Chevy realises that 99% of their truck owners dont use it to off road or tow. Ford on the other hand it built for work.
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Originally Posted by SuperDutyHaulin
The reason they are lower is so it drives more like a car. Chevy realises that 99% of their truck owners dont use it to off road or tow. Ford on the other hand it built for work.