I think Armada is the NewTitanOwner who got bashed for talking against Ford, thats what im guessing.

 

Guys, I'm here because I love Fords. Check out my other posts. I saw that newtitanowner crap. He was full of subjective B/S and probably a salesman. I got the Armada after driving everything out there. I still own my '97 Expedition 5.4 but it won't tow heavy loads like I need now. I thought I would bring some objective data to the discussion. Maybe one of those mags might be off. Maybe someone involved in the testing might have a bias. But ALL of them? I wanted to buy a new Expedition, but the new Nissan was just better for my need. No offense intended. I thought this was a technical forum and I tried to put real numbers out there from pretty respectable sources.

 

Nissan , Titan . Nice try Nissan, better luck next time. They might make a decent SUV, but dont dare call that want to be truck anything more than it is, garbage.

 

hahaha. what makes nissan think they can go from making little, toaster oven pickups to making full size trucks that will compete? sure, the titan looks cool, but if it's anything like every other pickup they ever built, the motor will puss out and the paint will fall off within 5 years. the only thing good about nissan pickups is that you can temporarily fix a broken u-joint with bailing wire and duct tape. (saw it with my own eyes).

 

Alright Guys -

Lets get back to "tech talk" or another thread will be locked.

 

Are you brand bashing or stating a fact? If 'you think' your stating a fact I challange you to post some facts. Else

Your just blowing smoke.

Can't say since the inception of the motor I've ever seen the aluminum heads ever being a problem.

P.S. those heads are actually an Aluminum alloy and have a much higher melting point then reg aluminum.

 

It's a fact. If you want proof, go to your own chevy forum. There are numerous complaints about the heads breaking. You can also go to turbodieselregister.com and you will see many post on broken heads, in fact there is one that broke with under 500 miles on it! That is why I think Nissan is in trouble with their all aluminum engine, it just wont be able to hack the life of a truck engine.
Aluminum engines were made for hondas, that is where they should stay.

 

On the aluminum head issue, I can't say one way or the other regarding their use in diesel applications. I can say this much: The Ford modular gas engines, including the SOHC 5.4 we have been discussing in this thread have aluminum heads too. I don't think Ford has been having a problem with those heads warping. The problem, I think, when it does rarely occur is when aluminum heads are placed on a cast iron block and exposed to extreme conditions. The thermal expansion and contraction of the two metals is quite different and can (just a possibility) result in heads warping or head gaskets blowing. All aluminum engines, like Nissan's V-8 (although it does have cast iron sleeves) don't have the different metals trying to live together, moving diffently. Most of the time the head gasket can do a remarkable job of sealing everything. I would think the Nissan would not have such a problem.

I do know that the all aluminum Nissan V-8 has been around in very high performance passenger cars (Q45) for over ten years now and I haven't heard of any problems.

And yes, when we say aluminum, we are meaning aluminum alloy, not pure aluminum.

So maybe both of you are right in a sense. If there are problems with the duramax warping heads, I doubt it is because the head is aluminum. Maybe cooling system is not adequate or something. Most warped heads we encounter are due to serious overheating - that's a cooling system problem. But Ford has already gone to aluminum on the gasoline mod heads with no problem.

 

Armada beat me to it with the Ford Aluminum.. However I went to the Site You suggested, Turbodieselregister.com. and saw no mention of Duramax head problems.. Could You please post those threads, I couldnt navigate the site very well..

 

Getting back to the subject at hand. Heres my thought s on the subject. Commercials mean nothing to me personally. Ford,GM,and Dodge are going to have commercials where each one is on top. The 6.0 situation has hurt ford in diesel sales Im sure. I can see people switching brands here. I cant blame them. But its the only reason they would. I think superduty customers are the most loyal around. Whem somebody has one it seems like they always get another one. I dont know anybody around here that had a superduty and switched because of the 6.0 problems. But I am sure they will be a few. Funny thing Ive seen lots of duramaxes traded off for powerstrokes in the last few months. Seems odd to me with all these problems they would do this. But who nos. But it seems like its not the other way around. Until Dodge gets a crewcab to compete with ford they will never overtake ford. Put a superduty next to a dodge quad cab. Theres no comparison. As far as the duramax goes. I rule that out. IFS has no place on a HD truck.

 

Of course they're going to go after Ford, Ford is the company that's selling the most trucks. When you're in front, there's a target on your back.

 

Yeh Ford Lariet exactly right especially from the Dodge camp. These dodge people make sure they know and tell us that there truck is just as good as ford or superior. Trouble is a dodge is a dodge a ford is a ford nothings changed. Hemi or cummins doesnt turn me on a bit. The quality problems Ive seen in past dodges make me never want to consider them. Dodge has been around for 10 years in trucks really. Before that they were a non factor in the truck market. Ford trucks have been popular for eighty plus years ever since they had trucks. Too many years to many trucks makes ford No.1. Quality, durability big reasons why.

 

hey 150ford i was wondering if you ever seen any hemi guys beat a ford cause theres a site called DTW alot of those guys are out of touch of reality and just brag to much. to me the hemi name is there just to sell dodge trucks and aint worth racing with.

 

I am not sure where it is but awhile back in this forum there was a picture and timeslip of a HEMI w/ less than 100 dollars in mods running mid 13's in the quarter... sounds like it can hold its own in a race to me.

 

Somehow I think that's BS. I believe there was a timeslip, but I can't buy that it only has 100 dollars in mods.