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Look, I just did a quick search in Yahoo, and came back with like, a few hundred different links to go to with the Duramax head problem. Thing is I dont really care, I wouldn't take a Chevy if it was given to me, they are ugly, underpowered, peices of junk. I cant stand the way they look, inside or outside, their horrible. Same goes for Dodge, I like the outside, its a good looking truck, but the inside is cheap and horendous looking, not to mention their lack of a good motor.
Its funny you mention that dodge and chevy have such bad motors, when Ford is having such bad problems with their POS excuse for a durable diesel truck.....can anyone say biased...Truth is the both the cummins and the cummins are a hell of alot more reliable.....Why dont you go to all of the Ford forums and look at all the probs the 6.0 is having..Ya go get one of those 6.0's and maybe you'll make it home from the dealer, big maybe....I bet its ten times more that the cummins or the duramax....And you mention interior of the dodge looking so bad, Ford has had the same ol blah looking interior for about, lets see, 5 years now....not to mention how bad of ratings it gets for its interiors being so plain....truth is they all make good vehicles and there is no way you can say that the dodge cummins is crap....nor can you say that the duramax is crap at least until ford's pos 6.0 can hold a candle to them for reliability...
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Look, I just did a quick search in Yahoo, and came back with like, a few hundred different links to go to with the Duramax head problem. Thing is I dont really care, I wouldn't take a Chevy if it was given to me, they are ugly, underpowered, peices of junk. I cant stand the way they look, inside or outside, their horrible. Same goes for Dodge, I like the outside, its a good looking truck, but the inside is cheap and horendous looking, not to mention their lack of a good motor.
I have not personally seen or heard of any head problems from the Duramax. I do personally know of problems with the 6.0. One of my best friends is the Diesel mechanic at the local Ford stealership and he tells me about all them. He hates the 6.0. I also know the diesel mechanic at the Chevy place, he says he has never pulled a Duramax head. Never had a major problem with one. In First couple months production, small injector problem, after that, nothing. The two dealerships sell about the same number of trucks.
You can bash the 6.0 all you want I would not buy that either. Diesel sucks, plain and simple. Dodge has nothing to offer at all other than the cummings, because the Hemi can barely tow the frame its mounted in, and Chevy is uglier, has a higher sticker price, and has the least power out of all of them.
And before you get into the Diesel is better than gas thing . For that extra $5000 or more you spend for the diesel, you could put a supercharger on, complete exhaust system on,a computer upgrade, and transmission work done on a V-10 that would out pull a diesel in its sleep. Not to mention that it would weigh less, so you could tow more.
You can bash the 6.0 all you want I would not buy that either. Diesel sucks, plain and simple. Dodge has nothing to offer at all other than the cummings, because the Hemi can barely tow the frame its mounted in, and Chevy is uglier, has a higher sticker price, and has the least power out of all of them.
I am not 6.0 bashing, I think the 6.0 is a decent engine. I am making the point that this thread was originally started to discuss. Ford, to date, has no legitimate claim that the 6.0 is the most durable diesel engine. As far as that goes, Dodge doesn't either, and I dont think they have. Both Dodge and Fords engines are too young to make that claim. To date, Cummins less problems than 6.0.
And it wouldn't last anywhere near as long, and you'd then have to upgrade your transmission, and the only way a diesel costs more is if you buy the trucks new and/or don't shop around when you're buying, and if you do get it new, you void any warranty that you had when you bolted the first mod on. I'm not arguing diesel vs. gas, though, this is about Chevy vs. Ford ??? or..., so here you go. Brandon, once again, the Cummins isn't proven, it's not a durable engine, show me one Cummins 600, the current diesel you get if you buy a Dodge, show me one that has made it to more than 750,000 miles. Even 500,000, and going by the length of time that they have been out, I'd say some 6.0s have made it that far, but no Cummins has had time to yet, so you can't say that's it's durable. ga302p, you can't seriously be comparing aluminum heads on a diesel to breakthrough design innovations like fuel injection and turbo intercoolers, are you? That's ridiculous, it's not that drastic of a change, and we don't know the long-term life of these engines, either, so don't ring their bell just yet. As far as looks, that's personal preference, so there's really no right or wrong arguments there.
And it wouldn't last anywhere near as long, and you'd then have to upgrade your transmission, and the only way a diesel costs more is if you buy the trucks new and/or don't shop around when you're buying, and if you do get it new, you void any warranty that you had when you bolted the first mod on. I'm not arguing diesel vs. gas, though, this is about Chevy vs. Ford ??? or..., so here you go. Brandon, once again, the Cummins isn't proven, it's not a durable engine, show me one Cummins 600, the current diesel you get if you buy a Dodge, show me one that has made it to more than 750,000 miles. Even 500,000, and going by the length of time that they have been out, I'd say some 6.0s have made it that far, but no Cummins has had time to yet, so you can't say that's it's durable. ga302p, you can't seriously be comparing aluminum heads on a diesel to breakthrough design innovations like fuel injection and turbo intercoolers, are you? That's ridiculous, it's not that drastic of a change, and we don't know the long-term life of these engines, either, so don't ring their bell just yet. As far as looks, that's personal preference, so there's really no right or wrong arguments there.
Im sure that the cummins 600 will be a great motor...Just look at the rest of the cummins, most of them last a really long time....Once again FordLariat im not saying its the most durable....Superdutyhaulin just claimed that the motors in the dodges are junk, not true....I guess he saying now that a V10 is better than the diesels...hahahaha....I pulled with a V10, doesnt compare to any cummins or powerstoke ive pulled with...ya maybe it will run with a trailer on a straight road, but doesnt hold a candle in the hills or especially in a head wind..I have one I know...By the way Superduty haulin look at the resale between a gas and a diesel.....A diesel's resale value is much more and you usually get that 5 thousand back....Should we mention gas milage to, sure beats the hell out of a gas, especially a big gasser...I also think that saying the hemi cant pull its own weight is just stupid...Everbody always says it has no low end torque, ya neither does the 6.0....so i guess that means the 6.0 cant pull its own wieght either...anytime you wanna put that V10 up against my cummins, duramax, or a powerstoke pullin let me know...
HEY HEY GUYS TAKE A CHILL PILL, its these kind of threads that take out the worst in people, man you guys are like little girls fighting over dolls or something, just breath and let it flow and let the good times roll, as long as its american its good, some of you guys make it look like the american brand are terrorist or something just chill out, all three are good diesel motors if they werent they wouldnt sell them. GEEZZ
HEY HEY GUYS TAKE A CHILL PILL, its these kind of threads that take out the worst in people, man you guys are like little girls fighting over dolls or something, just breath and let it flow and let the good times roll, as long as its american its good, some of you guys make it look like the american brand are terrorist or something just chill out, all three are good diesel motors if they werent they wouldnt sell them. GEEZZ
Still did not say I had one. I could be an unhappy 6.0 owner. If you read other theads I sure you could find a place where it seemed like I had a diesel. Point being, why would I tell you what I have, if I say I have a gasser, diesel guys will automaticly, think I am biased, same goes in reverse. Did you ever think that I am posting a question to ponder, no, didn't think so. Mabey you guys should look past your own closed mindedness about things. Diesels arent always better than gassers, gassers aren't always better than Diesles. Anybody who says there is no replacement for displacement, obviously has not been in a Porsce 911 turbo, or even a Mitsubishi Evo.
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