Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by SZAM
Is this true about the crash program ? I have not heard this yet 
Someone like my wife who looks for a conspiracy would say it is personal and they are doing this to mess with you, SZAM!
Lighten up! If you got to have something that has numbers now, buy a Predator, if you want a Superchip, buy one now. They will update anything they have already sold just like Diablo does.
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Double Shots !!!!
vacation tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vacation tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have a good time!
I get a day off Monday! (cause no one else is working)
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From: Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Good Grief! I was just making an assumption based upon the information available. Someone else may draw a completely different conclusion.
Someone like my wife who looks for a conspiracy would say it is personal and they are doing this to mess with you, SZAM!
Lighten up! If you got to have something that has numbers now, buy a Predator, if you want a Superchip, buy one now. They will update anything they have already sold just like Diablo does.
Someone like my wife who looks for a conspiracy would say it is personal and they are doing this to mess with you, SZAM!
Lighten up! If you got to have something that has numbers now, buy a Predator, if you want a Superchip, buy one now. They will update anything they have already sold just like Diablo does.
I did n't know I was making a big deal about it , no need for me to lighten up you are the one throwing words out so all I asked was if it was true , just do not want to throw info out that isn't true as I was told not to do if I did not know the facts
No need to lighten up here 
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by SZAM
I did n't know I was making a big deal about it , no need for me to lighten up you are the one throwing words out so all I asked was if it was true , just do not want to throw info out that isn't true as I was told not to do if I did not know the facts No need to lighten up here
No need to lighten up here Take it easy, we are all friends here or would like to be. We kid around a lot. If I post something as hard fact, I will say, "I got this from....."
We all have opinions, and as long as we are not acusing a sponser of something unsubstantiated, or flaming someone that hasn't flamed first. Like my wife, we can voice our opinions. That is what this forum is for. Conjecture, sure, lots of it. We kick ideas around because much of what companies do is shrouded in secrecy, as it should be.
This is the last time anyone here will likely explain themselves to you. If I was less concerned about you, I would let you believe what you want.
When I say "lighten up", that is a nice way of saying if you want to be taken seriously and participate in a two way discussion, then you need to convey less anger and more respect for others. The moderator warned you once, I've taken the time to give you two pieces of friendly advice, all on one page. Can you learn anything from that? We will see.
Last edited by Choctaw Bob; May 27, 2004 at 12:24 PM.
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From: Stockbridge
Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
I was told that the 150 is at the flywheel... may explain the diff between the prdator and it...
Lets assume both are equal.
Predator claims 100 HP, this is how they do it.
Predator dyno run, max HP = 380 HP
Stock dyno run, max HP = 280 HP
Difference between the two = 100 HP (peak to peak)
SC claims 150 HP, this is how they do it.
SC dyno run, max HP = 380 HP @ 3900 rpm (I just picked an rpm)
Stock dyno run, max HP = 230 HP @ 3900 rpm
Difference between the two @ 3900 rpm is 150 HP (peak gain)
Vic has stated this many times but not that simply. He usually includes a lot of other words to keep the water muddy.
Now having said that, from what Ive been reading the SC is a very fine product that does produce and has excellent shifting. But their claims at performance gains are less than clear at best.
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BLINK, BLINK... the lite is slowly illuminating !!! tanks psdwanna !
so it's the same ole' marketing sleight of hand !!!! just a new twist for me...
they found the rpm that had the LARGEST gradient between the two...
whereas diablo just showed the RWHP gain... (I think this is the standard, isn't it)
I come from the old school...
"if'n u gotta 'splain it, u ain't communicatin' right"
so it's the same ole' marketing sleight of hand !!!! just a new twist for me...
they found the rpm that had the LARGEST gradient between the two...
whereas diablo just showed the RWHP gain... (I think this is the standard, isn't it)
I come from the old school...
"if'n u gotta 'splain it, u ain't communicatin' right"
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
BLINK, BLINK... the lite is slowly illuminating !!! tanks psdwanna !
so it's the same ole' marketing sleight of hand !!!! just a new twist for me...
they found the rpm that had the LARGEST gradient between the two...
whereas diablo just showed the RWHP gain... (I think this is the standard, isn't it)
I come from the old school...
"if'n u gotta 'splain it, u ain't communicatin' right"
so it's the same ole' marketing sleight of hand !!!! just a new twist for me...
they found the rpm that had the LARGEST gradient between the two...
whereas diablo just showed the RWHP gain... (I think this is the standard, isn't it)
I come from the old school...
"if'n u gotta 'splain it, u ain't communicatin' right"
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Originally Posted by psdwanabe
I don't think so, its just the way they measure it. Predator (and most others) measure peak to peak, SC measures peak gain.
Lets assume both are equal.
Predator claims 100 HP, this is how they do it.
Predator dyno run, max HP = 380 HP
Stock dyno run, max HP = 280 HP
Difference between the two = 100 HP (peak to peak)
SC claims 150 HP, this is how they do it.
SC dyno run, max HP = 380 HP @ 3900 rpm (I just picked an rpm)
Stock dyno run, max HP = 230 HP @ 3900 rpm
Difference between the two @ 3900 rpm is 150 HP (peak gain)
Vic has stated this many times but not that simply. He usually includes a lot of other words to keep the water muddy.
Now having said that, from what Ive been reading the SC is a very fine product that does produce and has excellent shifting. But their claims at performance gains are less than clear at best.
Lets assume both are equal.
Predator claims 100 HP, this is how they do it.
Predator dyno run, max HP = 380 HP
Stock dyno run, max HP = 280 HP
Difference between the two = 100 HP (peak to peak)
SC claims 150 HP, this is how they do it.
SC dyno run, max HP = 380 HP @ 3900 rpm (I just picked an rpm)
Stock dyno run, max HP = 230 HP @ 3900 rpm
Difference between the two @ 3900 rpm is 150 HP (peak gain)
Vic has stated this many times but not that simply. He usually includes a lot of other words to keep the water muddy.
Now having said that, from what Ive been reading the SC is a very fine product that does produce and has excellent shifting. But their claims at performance gains are less than clear at best.
Jamie
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by JCROMAN
The sc has a medeoker power gain compared to most other modules. the shifting is harsh and ubrupt at light excelleration and 3rd gear hangs at 30-38 mph wich is annoying enough to drive a munk insane! i dont know about you guys but i dont like having to drive with my pedal on the floor just to feel any power. i am selling my sc and gonna try out a quad box. i already had the edge/attitude it would never shift good.
Jamie
Jamie
