and the white smoke is tires

 

Well, I just got back from Orlando Speed World Dragway. The truck ran a best of 14.797@91.52 mph.

Conditions: 80-85 degrees, 90% humidity, sunny.

I had a hard time getting enough RPM on the line to launch, which hurt my 60fts. The best I could get was a 2.001 60ft, but that was launching at only 1800 RPM. The converter just wanted to lock up at that RPM.

Best part of the night was an '03 there that I raced 2 times. The first pass was the only one worth mentioning. He had the same truck as me, but short bed (150 lbs less maybe??) Best of all...he had a Predator on 100 hp setting. The truck also had STOCK height tires, aFe intake, and a Banks turbo-back exhaust.

My truck: 1704 on Performance Tune, DPPI Turbo-back, stock intake, 295/75 BFG All-Terrains, 3" level kit

He went a 14.46@92.52 mph. EXACTLY 1 mph faster than me. SO, all in all, I was very impressed. If I had stock 31" tires back on it OR an aFe intake OR a short bed, I would think the MPH and e.t. would be much closer.

My truck in stock form only mustered a pathetic 16.4@81, now it's running a 14.7@91.5 with just the 1704 and turbo-back exhaust. All runs were made in 4WD. Anyone thinking of getting a 1704...GO FOR IT!! I'm very happy overall. It shifts better than the Predator, has a smoother power band, so far gets outstanding MPG, and is pretty damn fast. You may squeeze 4-6 more MPH from other modules, but I'd rather have perfect drivability and shifting.

don't have a question but just wanted to say thanks for making my'04 6liter ford a jaw dropping sight at cecil county dragway friday evening. i drive it ther (approx 50 min drive)went right to the staging lane and with the help of your predator ran a 14.302 @ 92 mph! my truck is a crewcab with 6"lift, 36" tires, and 20"x10" wheels. thanks! -pete rebman the first quote if from the vic's friend i am guessing that he went to the track with the second is from a predator customer read very carefully at what psdrob has to say then read on something is not making since with these tuner rating on power vic we need come dyno info from you quick the longer you wait the more we the customers think something might be fishy!!!!!!!!!! help

 

what was the EGT on that tun at the track?

 

which truck

 

sorry what was the EGT on that Run on the track ?

 

either one , at those speeds it would be nice to know what they where running at, must of been high?

 

neither gave egt's probably not in the best interest to be looking at those guages while racing even more if they are not or have not been down the track before. Neither of them posted or mention any egts hopefully we will be able to get some from somebody but those really aren't the ones to go off of we need some towing egt's that's what most of us do with these trucks not really race them not that that is a bad thing

 

You say it shifted better than the predator ?
Did you make a run in the same truck with the predator to qualify that statement? I would guess both tuners have to have a little adaptive time to shift their best... Very difficult to swap one then the other and expect their best right away...

inquiring minds want to know

 

I'm not being sarcastic here at all, but you have to understand why I have difficulty talking directly to you.
I can't understand what you are saying!
Your words are blocked together and most of it makes no sense whatsoever.
Use a little punctuation and some spacing between thoughts and I'll be able to understand/answer much more effectively.
Again, this is not meant to be sarcasm....you are simply impossible to understand at times.

The numbers at the track show the power.....look at the MPH...
What the heck is fishy about 92 MPH on all terrain tires?
A stock diesel truck, with a lift kit and all terrain tires (basically the aerodynamics of a brick with a wind drag tunnel underneath), running all the way down the track in 4wd and breaking 14.7 @ 92?
My neighbors mustang GT is already jealous.....=o)

How fast do you want a stock truck with an out of the box tune to go?
They run 14.30's to 14.40's with stock tires and stock ride height and they do it a few mph faster than with the all terrain tires....
That's a fast damn brick!

Remember, I do the tuning, I do not dictate when and how the dyno sheets are released. They will come soon enough.

 

He attempted to swap tuners with the other guy, and the Predator came up with a programming error =o(

I have a feeling the 1704 would have had the better time on his truck.

Another thing is this was an 04 strategy truck and it stil ran a 14.7 on the all terrains!

Think about an 03 strategy....with 50 or 60 more FT LBS at the tire =o)

 

Towing EGT's are stock (in some cases, SLIGHTLY higher, like 50 degrees higher under extreme load.

Econ EGT's are usually the same or just a little higher than the tow file.

The PERF file is fine unless you try to tow more than 6,000 LBS with it at wide open throttle up a hill.....THEN you may run into an issue.
The occasional truck will flash 1300 for a split second before a shift.
Common sense should always be used with the PERF file...so don't try to tow your 5th wheel with it.

 

A certain amount of smoke is NECESSARY to make power with a diesel.
The more smoke you remove, the less power it will make (unless you are obscenely overfueling it, which I'm not doing).

Fuel does more than make the truck run, it also keeps things cool.

 

I didn't have any difficulty understanding our friend blown 5.4.
There is no need to be defensive. He is giving you the opportunity to tell him why he should choose the 1704 over the Predator.
I am also looking for a reason to buy the 1704. I already have a Predator that so far looks like it makes more power than the 1704.
Blown 5.4 and some of the rest of us don't have enough information yet to make a decision. Please be a little more understanding. We all hang out on this forum and are more than a little excited with all the extra power we are playing with. We appreciate that you are jumping from one forum to another and to FTE where the maner and intent is a little more friendly than the others because of Ken's influence. We are sensitive over here. Take it easy on us.

 

LOL

I went back and read it
Perhaps that did sound a bit defensive....
Yeah..this is definitely a different crowd, which is why I rarely post at the other thread anymore.
There are many more complete thoughts over here.

 

Except when you start a thread about oil. You would think we were discussing our individual blood lines. I have never seen such illogical dribble in my life.