2020 Camera/TPMS/Backup Sensor Cable Problem
#196
I was browsing the brochure and saw trailer TPMS on all trims except the XT. I have an XT, the ultimate trailer package and 5th wheel prep. I assumed I would have trailer TPMS. Before I go aftermarket, I want to exhaust all options to have trailer tire pressure In the information display. Any XT owners have Trailer TPMS in the information display?
2020 F-350 XL DRW 4X4 CREW CAB 6.7L DIESEL AGATE BLACK
2019 Momentum 351M 5th wheel
History: 2019 F-350 Platinum SRW 4X4 Crew Cab 6.7L Diesel, 2016 GMC Denali SRW 4X4 Crew Cab, 2011 Chevy LT SRW 4X4 Ext Cab, ...., 1975 AMC Pacer
2020 F-350 XL DRW 4X4 CREW CAB 6.7L DIESEL AGATE BLACK
2019 Momentum 351M 5th wheel
History: 2019 F-350 Platinum SRW 4X4 Crew Cab 6.7L Diesel, 2016 GMC Denali SRW 4X4 Crew Cab, 2011 Chevy LT SRW 4X4 Ext Cab, ...., 1975 AMC Pacer
#197
So after a few emails with my Ordering Manager, Ford ended-up sending him two more TPMS units based on the documentation found throughout this thread (Ordering Guide Snippets). He said though Ford might be changing / updating this back to four total units. So some of us got lucky in getting six with persistence.
#198
I looked at the owner's manual and it shows this as what should be displayed for options under the towing tab:
Mine is missing "Trailer Tire Pressure". I looked at the FORscan spreadsheet and couldn't find anything that looked like this was something I could enable. My next step will be to call my Ford dealer to try to get the menu enabled. I suspect they will have no idea what I'm talking about.
Mine is missing "Trailer Tire Pressure". I looked at the FORscan spreadsheet and couldn't find anything that looked like this was something I could enable. My next step will be to call my Ford dealer to try to get the menu enabled. I suspect they will have no idea what I'm talking about.
#199
Hi Bertschb - I have the same issue where the Trailer Tire pressure is not showing in my instrument display. Just got set up to use FORscan and looked at the plain english section of the IPC Module and on my truck, the TPMS - Trailer is disabled. Surely it can't be as simple as switching to enabled????
Thank you for sharing what you found in Forscan. At least that worked good!
#200
Hi Bertschb,
I was able to confirm this plain English change worked. I hooked up to my trailer, took it around the block and the values displayed in the instrument display. I am using a 2019 harness, camera and trailer TPMS on my 2020 SD. As soon as I hooked up the trailer and 12 pin connector, the truck recognized the expected psi (110) I had set with my previous truck. Maybe that is the difference.
i did notice that the plain English forscan change to the IPC module made additional changes to the BdyCM module. I’m documenting all the changes and will send to the forscan threads.
I was able to confirm this plain English change worked. I hooked up to my trailer, took it around the block and the values displayed in the instrument display. I am using a 2019 harness, camera and trailer TPMS on my 2020 SD. As soon as I hooked up the trailer and 12 pin connector, the truck recognized the expected psi (110) I had set with my previous truck. Maybe that is the difference.
i did notice that the plain English forscan change to the IPC module made additional changes to the BdyCM module. I’m documenting all the changes and will send to the forscan threads.
#201
#202
Thanks CFDFireman90. I was able to combine the 2019 Camera, TPMS kit harness with the 2020 yaw sensor harness.
2020 F-350 XL DRW 4X4 CREW CAB 6.7L DIESEL AGATE BLACK
2019 Momentum 351M 5th wheel
History: 2019 F-350 Platinum SRW 4X4 Crew Cab 6.7L Diesel, 2016 GMC Denali SRW 4X4 Crew Cab, 2011 Chevy LT SRW 4X4 Ext Cab, ...., 1975 AMC Pacer
2020 F-350 XL DRW 4X4 CREW CAB 6.7L DIESEL AGATE BLACK
2019 Momentum 351M 5th wheel
History: 2019 F-350 Platinum SRW 4X4 Crew Cab 6.7L Diesel, 2016 GMC Denali SRW 4X4 Crew Cab, 2011 Chevy LT SRW 4X4 Ext Cab, ...., 1975 AMC Pacer
i was thinking of doing the same I’m getting a smokin deal for a ´17/19 camera kit only no tpms (don’t need them anyway) I have a ´20 platinum with tow package and yaw sensor by the looks of it u just open up plug and integrate camera wire at the proper location in the plug ?
#203
i was thinking of doing the same I’m getting a smokin deal for a ´17/19 camera kit only no tpms (don’t need them anyway) I have a ´20 platinum with tow package and yaw sensor by the looks of it u just open up plug and integrate camera wire at the proper location in the plug ?
#204
Doesn’t the camera kit come with its own wiring harness. If you don’t want to use the Yaw sensor then I assume you can just plug the camera harness into the 14 pin connector. I have a 20 with all three, so mine has the harness that combines all three, so it is different, but I would assume the camera comes with a harness that has the 14 pin plug on the end, even if they only use a few of the connections.
doesnthe truck have the combined 7 pin/14 pin socket.
doesnthe truck have the combined 7 pin/14 pin socket.
#205
I have the YAW sensor for my fifth wheel and the camera package. The truck was ordered with a Fifth wheel prep and the ultimate camera package. I do not have the TPMS sensor kit. I was able to take apart the YAW sensor wiring harness and combine it with my camera wiring harness to have both in the same harness. I will attach some pictures with explanations.The most time-consuming part is un-taping the wiring harness.
This is the YAW sensor harness truck end plug. Notice there are 4 pins. Only 2 of them go to the trailer end. The other 2 dead end about 12” into the harness.
This is the truck end plug of the camera harness. Notice the full row of pins. The row above that has 1 pin. The 2 holes to the left of that are where the YAW sensor pins go.
These are the dead end wires in the YAW harness.
First carefully pry these tabs and open the plastic case around the plug.
Next pry open the tab on one part of this piece and cut the tie wrap on the other part.
Next carefully push in here and slide out the part you are pushing in on. There is one of these on both sides. It’s a bit tricky but keep at it.
This is what it looks like when it comes out. This piece is in where the pins poke out through and plug in to the truck. One this piece is out the pins will be unlocked. You will be able to pull out the wires and pins from the other end.
This is the back side of the YAW sensor plug. Once you complete the prior step the 2 wires you need will pull right out with the pins attached. Make sure to note which color wire comes out of which hole.
Do all these same steps with the camera harness. Instead of removing wires and pins put the YAW sensor pins in the appropriate holes. Run the wires in the loom, tape it all up and voila, a combined harness.
I will try and answer any questions.
This is the YAW sensor harness truck end plug. Notice there are 4 pins. Only 2 of them go to the trailer end. The other 2 dead end about 12” into the harness.
This is the truck end plug of the camera harness. Notice the full row of pins. The row above that has 1 pin. The 2 holes to the left of that are where the YAW sensor pins go.
These are the dead end wires in the YAW harness.
First carefully pry these tabs and open the plastic case around the plug.
Next pry open the tab on one part of this piece and cut the tie wrap on the other part.
Next carefully push in here and slide out the part you are pushing in on. There is one of these on both sides. It’s a bit tricky but keep at it.
This is what it looks like when it comes out. This piece is in where the pins poke out through and plug in to the truck. One this piece is out the pins will be unlocked. You will be able to pull out the wires and pins from the other end.
This is the back side of the YAW sensor plug. Once you complete the prior step the 2 wires you need will pull right out with the pins attached. Make sure to note which color wire comes out of which hole.
Do all these same steps with the camera harness. Instead of removing wires and pins put the YAW sensor pins in the appropriate holes. Run the wires in the loom, tape it all up and voila, a combined harness.
I will try and answer any questions.
im getting a 17/19 camera kit for like $100 cnd can't pass a deal like that. thanks for posting how to it that's exactly what I was looking for
#206
Doesn’t the camera kit come with its own wiring harness. If you don’t want to use the Yaw sensor then I assume you can just plug the camera harness into the 14 pin connector. I have a 20 with all three, so mine has the harness that combines all three, so it is different, but I would assume the camera comes with a harness that has the 14 pin plug on the end, even if they only use a few of the connections.
doesnthe truck have the combined 7 pin/14 pin socket.
doesnthe truck have the combined 7 pin/14 pin socket.
#207
I have a 2020 F-350 and bought a 2017-19 trailer camera/TPMS kit (2020 kits aren't readily available). I also got the larger Nichols valve stems and had those, along with the Ford TPMS sensors installed on my trailer tires. I then purchased the Nichols 2020 Ford harness so I can use my yaw sensor, TPMS and camera at the same time from the single 12 pin plug in my truck. Next, I had to use Forscan to get my danged truck to recognize the trailer TPMS module. So far, so good!
So, I finally have everything in place to get my truck to learn the TPMS sensors on my 5th wheel. With my 2019 truck and RV, this took 5 minutes. Let air out of the indicated tire, wait for honk, move to next tire. Rinse and repeat. No luck with this new truck. Tried it 20 times and gave up. I then purchased the Ford TPMS learning tool on Amazon with high hopes of success and getting this ridiculously lengthy process behind me. It worked on the first tire! I then moved to the second tire and that worked! WhooHoo! 3rd tire? No dice. I started over ten times and eventually used the tool on tires "out of order" just to see if the 3rd and 4th TPMS sensors worked. They did. After another hour of screwing around tire #2 would no longer activate. All the others worked fine.
I plan to bring the #2 tire to the Ford dealer tomorrow with low expectations that they will be able to help me - or even understand what I'm asking them to do.
So my question to anybody here who might know something about the Ford TPMS sensors - do you think the sensor was installed incorrectly in the tire or is the sensor bad or is the battery in the sensor dead?
So, I finally have everything in place to get my truck to learn the TPMS sensors on my 5th wheel. With my 2019 truck and RV, this took 5 minutes. Let air out of the indicated tire, wait for honk, move to next tire. Rinse and repeat. No luck with this new truck. Tried it 20 times and gave up. I then purchased the Ford TPMS learning tool on Amazon with high hopes of success and getting this ridiculously lengthy process behind me. It worked on the first tire! I then moved to the second tire and that worked! WhooHoo! 3rd tire? No dice. I started over ten times and eventually used the tool on tires "out of order" just to see if the 3rd and 4th TPMS sensors worked. They did. After another hour of screwing around tire #2 would no longer activate. All the others worked fine.
I plan to bring the #2 tire to the Ford dealer tomorrow with low expectations that they will be able to help me - or even understand what I'm asking them to do.
So my question to anybody here who might know something about the Ford TPMS sensors - do you think the sensor was installed incorrectly in the tire or is the sensor bad or is the battery in the sensor dead?
#208
it looks quite simple to do, I messed around with few Harley Deutsch connectors before, have you tried it yet does your truck recognized the camera right away after plugging everything in ?
im getting a 17/19 camera kit for like $100 cnd can't pass a deal like that. thanks for posting how to it that's exactly what I was looking for
im getting a 17/19 camera kit for like $100 cnd can't pass a deal like that. thanks for posting how to it that's exactly what I was looking for
#209
The instructions for the sensors say that if you can drive them for a bit at 20 mph the leaning process goes faster. My presumption is the sensors charge themselves based on rotation of the wheel and tire. Had you driven them at all before you tried to train them?
on mine, I had the wheels balanced after the sensors were installed, so presumably that was enough to charge them. My tires started at 80 psi, they beeped at about 55 psi, so they had to bleed a fair amount of air.
on mine, I had the wheels balanced after the sensors were installed, so presumably that was enough to charge them. My tires started at 80 psi, they beeped at about 55 psi, so they had to bleed a fair amount of air.
#210
The instructions for the sensors say that if you can drive them for a bit at 20 mph the leaning process goes faster. My presumption is the sensors charge themselves based on rotation of the wheel and tire. Had you driven them at all before you tried to train them?
on mine, I had the wheels balanced after the sensors were installed, so presumably that was enough to charge them. My tires started at 80 psi, they beeped at about 55 psi, so they had to bleed a fair amount of air.
on mine, I had the wheels balanced after the sensors were installed, so presumably that was enough to charge them. My tires started at 80 psi, they beeped at about 55 psi, so they had to bleed a fair amount of air.