'07 axles under the '01 Excursion - Conversion Thread
Mountain Pass
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 245
Likes: 57
Mike, did you ever get around to these measurements and have them written down somewhere? Just wondering.
Mountain Pass
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 245
Likes: 57
Overall distance between wheel mounting surfaces. I know the offset on the wheels changed to account for the wider axle for newer trucks, but was never able to find exactly how much the axle changed in width.
Cross-Country
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Curious if anyone has tackled the rear axle swap and installed a rear sway bar setup. Any issues? Did you use a superduty kit or and Excursion kit?
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
Thread Starter
|
Veteran/Sheepdog
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,047
Likes: 110
From: Western AR
The mounting points for the rear sway bars are the same on the '05-'10 10.5" axles as the '00-'05 Excursion Sterling 10.5" axles. The variations in the stock sway bars are their thickness and the appropriate bushing/bracket for said thickness.
The front sway bar is completely different, and uses the mounting points that the 2wd Excursions use in front of the front wheels.
'05 thru '07 front sway bars are the same. In '08, Ford went to a bulkier front sway bar that is shaped a little different, and it has different end link mounting points on the axle. An '05-'07 end link will not work on an '08-'10. The '08-'10 sway bars will still bolt up to the front of our Excursions, despite the design change, with one caveat: You have to get M6 bolts and speed clips, since the '08-'10 bars switched to nuts on bolts in the frame to mount to vs. bolts going into the nuts in the bracket next to the frame to mount to.
The front sway bar is completely different, and uses the mounting points that the 2wd Excursions use in front of the front wheels.
'05 thru '07 front sway bars are the same. In '08, Ford went to a bulkier front sway bar that is shaped a little different, and it has different end link mounting points on the axle. An '05-'07 end link will not work on an '08-'10. The '08-'10 sway bars will still bolt up to the front of our Excursions, despite the design change, with one caveat: You have to get M6 bolts and speed clips, since the '08-'10 bars switched to nuts on bolts in the frame to mount to vs. bolts going into the nuts in the bracket next to the frame to mount to.
Cargo Master
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 2,543
Likes: 322
From: Harned, Ky
The whole thing was about upgrading from the old leaf spring front suspension to a newer factory style coil spring front suspension along with better brakes.
I don't know of any factory rear coil spring setups on Ford trucks that can be swapped over to the older chassis.
I don't know of any factory rear coil spring setups on Ford trucks that can be swapped over to the older chassis.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 179
Likes: 2
Guys I’m looking into doing this and sourced a place that sells the front frame section complete as a “kit” for this swap. His price with that AND Athens matching rear axle is $1500. Does this seem like a fair price? I have checked anywhere else to get prices.
Also, in the name of saving my back and time, I’m wondering if it might just be easier in time and labor cost (my own man hours) to buy PMF brackets and buckets and coils, and source a front axle with arms and matching rear axle. I realize this will be more expensive but I was considering a 2.5” lift at the same time anyway so pulling the factory stuff off doesn’t really make that much sense to me.....I would still need the newer steering gearbox, front steering stuff and other incidentals.....
Also, in the name of saving my back and time, I’m wondering if it might just be easier in time and labor cost (my own man hours) to buy PMF brackets and buckets and coils, and source a front axle with arms and matching rear axle. I realize this will be more expensive but I was considering a 2.5” lift at the same time anyway so pulling the factory stuff off doesn’t really make that much sense to me.....I would still need the newer steering gearbox, front steering stuff and other incidentals.....
Thread Starter
|
Veteran/Sheepdog
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,047
Likes: 110
From: Western AR
Depending on your abilities with drill bits and cutting tools, buying the PMF stuff will save you between 6 and 12 hours of SERIOUS work. You will need the brake master cylinder and the fittings in the ports to go with your new setup.
$1500 is a good deal if there is no rust on your prospective parts, and you really get everything you need from the list. Don't forget the parking brake cables and brackets, rear leafs, etc. You need more than just a rear axle.
This modification is going to raise your truck 2-2.5 inches on its own. You want additional height beyond that?
$1500 is a good deal if there is no rust on your prospective parts, and you really get everything you need from the list. Don't forget the parking brake cables and brackets, rear leafs, etc. You need more than just a rear axle.
This modification is going to raise your truck 2-2.5 inches on its own. You want additional height beyond that?