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I don't know how much the price is going to matter. However, if you want to run the kind of horsepower and torque that dad's truck is going to put out you are probably going to have to do a heavy build on the e4od.
My view - save that work (conversion to computer-controlled automatic overdrive transmission) for a different project, this one is pretty far along at this point.
I see a lot of guys running the e4od with real Stout diesels in front of them. They usually have to change input and output shafts to like a billet material, used cut pressure plates with additional frictions and steels, more aggressive fractions then stock, steel 6 pinion planets along with other upgrades.
A guy could end up with close to $5,000 in that tranny.
Then at $1700 the Advance Adaptor's Ranger Torque Splitter is looking pretty good.
I would say Gear Vender's unit at $3000 but I don't think they work with 4x4?
Dave ----
Just read through half of the towing adventure and this one. And I have to say, wow great truck Gary! Kudos to nonrev as well for getting the truck as far as he did.
Wish I could have continued the project but with being gone half the year overseas than having the "Family Emergency" that wiped out 85% of my big full restore cash horde ... it was just the final straw when the engine froze up... Finally made the decision I wasn't going to spend any more and just fall further and further behind as I had been doing.
Love seeing someone like Gary pick this up and really do it up. I was hoping someone who loved Fords would get it and it couldn't have turned out better. Gary has done more in two weeks than I could have gotten done in 2 years....
My biggest problem down here was always finding reliable and skilled craftsmen to work on it (see muffler...ha!)
One piece of advise for anyone having a cash stash for a restore project: make sure you don't have a crazy family member (Mother-in- Law, there I said it!...ha) who might need bailing out!
Will be watching from the sidelines. Keep the pictures coming Gary
Ok, I'm home. 213 miles with no problems, and 10.6 MPG on the first 108 miles running at 55 - 65 MPH. However, there are a few minor things to address. One is that the volt meter doesn't stay where I think it should - at 14.4V. Instead, I see between 12.8 and 13.8V and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason as to why since nothing else was turned on/off in the cab. And, I found oil drops under the truck when I got home, so I have to figure out where they came from. Plus, I need to install the window runs and door gaskets that Vernon provided as the wind whistle is quite strong. Anyway, IT WORKS!!!
As for the transmission, let me spell out for Vernon, and anyone else that doesn't know, the background. I'm in the midst of restifying Dad's 1981, which originally had a C6 auto. Those are stout transmissions, but they are very thirsty as they don't have overdrives nor lock-up torque converters. So, going down the highway the engine was always spinning something like 2800 RPM at 65 MPH.
Before I tore the truck down for restoration I installed a ZF5 transmission that I bought off of Craigslist. I really liked the fact that it had an overdrive and had no slippage, which reduced the RPM to about 1900 at 65. That increased the MPG by about 3 and dramatically reduced the noise level in the truck. But, I realized that it is a truck transmission and they shift slowly. And, while they give the truck an air of ruggedness they tend to reduce the air of sophistication.
In spite of that I sent the ZF5 out for a complete rebuild while Dad's truck is down. So, I have a ZF5 sitting in the shop that will bolt into Big Blue save for needing a new clutch disc and a taller transmission hump - which I have. Given that, I've been thinking about installing the ZF in Big Blue. And that would mean I'd need to find a new tranny for Dad's truck, would be an E4OD with a Baughman controller - basically what Bill Vose is running in Darth. That would mean more people in my family can drive Dad's truck, and it would also make the truck more nimble. But, apparently it would require a heavily-built E4OD and may be expensive.
It's not really heavily built, but some problems in the early years were corrected in subsequent years
Not sure I understand. The E4OD? Yes, the problems seem to have been corrected later, and most reputable builders will put those fixes in. Here's an outfit that builds them.
Sure, you CAN do stuff like that to an E40D, just like you can do it to a C6. But it's optional at that point, it's a fairly decent transmission that's based on the C6 IIRC.
Sure, you CAN do stuff like that to an E40D, just like you can do it to a C6. But it's optional at that point, it's a fairly decent transmission that's based on the C6 IIRC.
My point is that the E4OD can be built to withstand 650 HP and 850 ft-lbs of torque - easily able to handle the engine for Dad's truck. And it isn't $5000.