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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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That's excellent for you. Sept is coming up soon.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Dealer called this time. Truck is to be built September 2. I ran the serial through the Ford decoder and it says it is an XL. I hope not. Not even sure you can get an XL F450.

Time will tell.

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You can definitely get an XL 450. Ask for a copy of your order. It will state what the trim is. The decoder did work for me, but mines not a 450.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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You can definitely get an XL 450. Ask for a copy of your order. It will state what the trim is. The decoder did work for me, but mines not a 450.
I have a copy of the order -- it says Lariat 450


We will see.

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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 05:56 PM
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Priority 1 is great news. It's a reserved priority and the fastest you can get.
Seeing that it's a priority but not seeing a VIN has me confused. Shouldn't the two go hand in hand? Once it moves up in priority is there a timeframe when a VIN is created?


Resalas, I think you ran into the same thing where yours was bumped up in priority?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hollapm
Seeing that it's a priority but not seeing a VIN has me confused. Shouldn't the two go hand in hand? Once it moves up in priority is there a timeframe when a VIN is created?


Resalas, I think you ran into the same thing where yours was bumped up in priority?
You can be priority 1 without a VIN. All that means is that you are waiting for a VIN to be assigned.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 08:44 PM
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Quite a few 2017s with pics listed on cars.com now. Few of them listed with discounted price.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 12:26 AM
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You can be priority 1 without a VIN. All that means is that you are waiting for a VIN to be assigned.
Thanks Azuretruck. So does it typically take a day, a week, a month for a VIN to get generated? Does it move it to the front of the build queue when a VIN is assigned or does it operate around the first come first serve model so that all VINs generated today would be built first and then the new VIN would be last? Trying to understand this more. My transmission crapped out so I'm skirting by while I wait...
 
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Just caught wind from my dealer, my truck got pushed out a week to the week of Sept 12th. Oh well. No big worry there. Just as long as it is built right.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hollapm


Resalas, I think you ran into the same thing where yours was bumped up in priority?
Actually no. Nothing has changed since April 23. Always been a Retail Sale priority 10. Back in May we deleted the upfitter module when the order guide indicated the module was for cab.chassis orders only...got ahead of the rejection from the order department. Only theory I have at this point may have to do with being a super cab. But I don't know. Just a little annoyed that such an early order is now looking to be October or November, just in time for the salt season.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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I got my build date today. I ordered on 7-16-16 got vin# 63414 build date 9-6-16 . I can't wait. I just got a email today
 
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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Word is that the parts shortages are more widespread than just the Mexican/Brazilian harnesses. There are several vendors who are just not keeping up and at risk of losing contracts with Ford. Net effect so far is about 4 weeks behind where Ford wanted/expected to be right now. This provides a little better understanding of the multiple delays of build dates that some of our members are experiencing.

You have to know this is incredibly stressful for Ford and hard on the workers. It's also frustrating to customers who pay a ton of money and get seemingly poor service. But it's impossible to set dates and deadlines when the supply line is so uncertain right now. So we hang out and let the launch plod forward.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
Word is that the parts shortages are more widespread than just the Mexican/Brazilian harnesses. There are several vendors who are just not keeping up and at risk of losing contracts with Ford. Net effect so far is about 4 weeks behind where Ford wanted/expected to be right now. This provides a little better understanding of the multiple delays of build dates that some of our members are experiencing.

You have to know this is incredibly stressful for Ford and hard on the workers. It's also frustrating to customers who pay a ton of money and get seemingly poor service. But it's impossible to set dates and deadlines when the supply line is so uncertain right now. So we hang out and let the launch plod forward.
Thanks for the info. Will get them soon enough. I hope
 
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
Word is that the parts shortages are more widespread than just the Mexican/Brazilian harnesses. There are several vendors who are just not keeping up and at risk of losing contracts with Ford. Net effect so far is about 4 weeks behind where Ford wanted/expected to be right now. This provides a little better understanding of the multiple delays of build dates that some of our members are experiencing.

You have to know this is incredibly stressful for Ford and hard on the workers. It's also frustrating to customers who pay a ton of money and get seemingly poor service. But it's impossible to set dates and deadlines when the supply line is so uncertain right now. So we hang out and let the launch plod forward.
Very well said. I think we came into this information about the same time and thanks for responding so well. Having managed projects and relied on subcontractors and outside suppliers the end result can be very tarnished by poor performance from said outsiders. But at the end of the day if our project was over budget or late our company and its' managers shouldered the responsibility. Whether the suppliers hired were not reliable, false claims of ability to perform and poor quality control still fall back to the decisions of the company and its project management team. I am not going to bail out on Ford nor am I totally willing to accept the fault lies with the subs. Vehicle design and co-ordination is huge. Just in time parts deliveries leave lots of space for error. (Just in time is a product of the Federal Government micro management through tax penalties for holding inventory.) All of this concern me for numerous reasons. Number one is the direct effect it has on a vehicle I have waited 16 years to buy. Number 2 is the effect it has on the Ford name and reputation. And Number 3 is the effect it has on the corporate profits and Number 4 is the effect it has on the rank and file who are called into work one day then sent home at noon, reschedule their time off for mandatory overtime then have it cancelled at the last moment. All trained and well paid workers but the uncertainty plays into their moral attitude and ultimately to the overall quality of the build. And these parts which can't get there on time. Is there an undo rush to complete components under a looming penalty? Maybe just cheat a little here and there to complete the items faster than should be possible. I guess we will see how things play out as the next few months evolve. I read and believed that the lessons of the F150 rollout had been learned and corrected. There is still time to prove this true, but that candle is fading. The line "Available Late Fall" is becoming a reality to many of us who jumped in too early.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
Very well said. I think we came into this information about the same time and thanks for responding so well. Having managed projects and relied on subcontractors and outside suppliers the end result can be very tarnished by poor performance from said outsiders. But at the end of the day if our project was over budget or late our company and its' managers shouldered the responsibility. Whether the suppliers hired were not reliable, false claims of ability to perform and poor quality control still fall back to the decisions of the company and its project management team. I am not going to bail out on Ford nor am I totally willing to accept the fault lies with the subs. Vehicle design and co-ordination is huge. Just in time parts deliveries leave lots of space for error. (Just in time is a product of the Federal Government micro management through tax penalties for holding inventory.) All of this concern me for numerous reasons. Number one is the direct effect it has on a vehicle I have waited 16 years to buy. Number 2 is the effect it has on the Ford name and reputation. And Number 3 is the effect it has on the corporate profits and Number 4 is the effect it has on the rank and file who are called into work one day then sent home at noon, reschedule their time off for mandatory overtime then have it cancelled at the last moment. All trained and well paid workers but the uncertainty plays into their moral attitude and ultimately to the overall quality of the build. And these parts which can't get there on time. Is there an undo rush to complete components under a looming penalty? Maybe just cheat a little here and there to complete the items faster than should be possible. I guess we will see how things play out as the next few months evolve. I read and believed that the lessons of the F150 rollout had been learned and corrected. There is still time to prove this true, but that candle is fading. The line "Available Late Fall" is becoming a reality to many of us who jumped in too early.
Even better said.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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I think Just In Time inventory is quite beneficial to manufacturer profits, as well. Let's not blame the gov for something the producers would want anyway. GM got burned many times in the old days for too much inventory on hand.

Lets also not speculate too much. It seems many of the early orders from members here were high-spec trucks. I've heard nothing of other shortages and delays. Some people have actually gotten their trucks. Others have them built and just waiting on delivery. My ETA has not budged since it was first announced several weeks ago. I'm actually optimistic the truck will arrive at the end of this coming week.
 
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