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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 02:20 AM
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Sounds like you got a lot done. I moved the 83 Ford truck out of the garage so that I could get my hoist out, I loaned it to a friend with a Jeep who is replacing his 4.0 six with a fresh reman unit. While I had that half of the garage empty I did a little cleaning & mopping then put it all back. Andre came over in his Cutlass because we needed to get his TV transmission cable set correctly. Just like the Ford AOD, if this is not set with the right amount of tension & travel then the shift points are all messed up and the dire warnings of burning up your transmission. So we drove around for 20 minutes, hopping out and opening the hood every mile or so and making adjustments until we got it to shift on time. But I hadn't done much car work all week other than that, I've been clearing overgrowth and nuisance trees in my back yard. Or the side yard. Side of my property as you go towards the back past my workshop! Part swamp, part jungle.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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Sounds like you were busy too

I tested the head lights in the Durango going to work at 1am today.
They are a little better but I hate the pattern. The light is spread out to much and not down the road for me
They do look like they are aimed too high so may lower them a little?

The bike is still apart, the 2 front turn signal lights but 4 screws and I can ride it if the weather is nice but want to see if I can fix the ant. for the radio before I put them back in.

I dont remember dose the 83 run or was it push out & in?
I got to do some cleaning of my garage. I think my son keeps being stuff in when I am not looking LOL
I also need to see if I got wheels that will fit my Javelin as they keep going flat because of dry rot.
Also afraid they will blow up when filling just to move it when I need to.

My yard work will be done spring time, I did not even sweep up the leaves this year because of work had me working 6 days a week.

Good to hear you got the transmission to shift right.
Is the high idle fixed now with the new carb?
Been so long now I dont remember now LOL
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 11:20 PM
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No, that 83 F100 does not run. Currently no carburetor on it, and I don't think everything is even wired up anyway. So I pull it out and push it back in.

I have 2 rollers with 5 on 4-1/2 bolt pattern you could borrow, but they're old school drum brake wheels and won't fit over your disc brakes on the front.

Andre's Cutlass still idles at 1100. Since his mufflers are quiet it doesn't "sound" too high, but I would like to be more like 750-800. It does clunk going into drive which I think would not happen at a lower RPM. I think we need somebody that knows Edelbrock's to look at it, either you or Wayne was telling me it has a screw on the underside that sometimes would be removed to allow for more airflow at idle?

Forgot to mention, he wanted to rebuild the Holley on the 302 in the Mazda. So I sent him the part number to order the rebuild kit and when it came in I told him "watch; you're going to learn why I like Holley's so much more than Edelbrocks!". We pulled off the float bowl and metering block, left the body of the carb on the engine. The float bowl was pretty "chalky" from the years of old gas sitting in it, so he cleaned that out real good. Replaced the needle & seat, fresh accelerator pump. Cleaned the metering block, all new gaskets plus new power valve. Had it all back together and running in less than an hour, and he says runs better than it ever did before. The old power valve was 8.5 and still good but we used the new one anyway which was 6.5. The jets were 61 and we left them alone. The carburetor is 350 cfm, and I guess this ended up being a good combo. I kept the 8.5 power valve because I want to clean up the Holley 500 in my F100 and I might be able to use it there.

 
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 06:03 PM
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Pushing the truck in & out is not fun.
Because I think I cooked the battery in the Javelin with a trickle charger, other wise it would start when I need to move, and blow the tires up.
After having a shop with my dad and just about everything we would have to move would need jump starting and I said I would make sure my stuff would start / run with out a jump start.

On the wheels I have some 15 inch that where on my parts truck with the small pattern but when on the truck the center holes was not large enough so I dont know if they will fit the Javelin.
The other thing is 15" as the car came with 14". If I can fit 2 - 15" on the rear I think I can come up with 2 14 tires for the front where I think the larger tire / wheel will hit the fenders. I will come up with something one day LOL

On Holley carbs I have some gaskets, jets and some other parts in my "Holley pit box" I used when racing.
If looking for something let me know and O will look.
On Andre's Cutlass did we come to cause why the idle is so high?
Was it a vacuum leak inside the carb or a intake manifold gasket maybe between the manifold & heads?
Did he do anything with the EGR like make a blank off plate as I think that could be a cause also?

BTW how is Andre's wife doing? I have not heard anything so guess thats a good thing.
I asked for the next 3 weekends off from work, got some things going on, and if so I should have time where I can take a look at things.
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 02:53 AM
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My carburetor parts box is nowhere even close to being organized like that, you have to make your best guess if it is original Ford carburetor parts, Holley parts, or old timey parts (I have a bunch of old Ford 94 / Holley 94 carbs from the 50's and many parts for them in my box as well).

Anything I can do or lend to help the Javelin roll in and out let me know.

I saw Andre's wife yesterday and talked to her, she seems to be much better. I know she is back to working now. Wayne had a relapse, as apparently he collapsed in the waiting room at the doctors office where he was about to have his normally scheduled checkup to make sure he was recovering well from his previous issues! They called an ambulance and brought him to the emergency room, later determined that he was severely dehydrated which is why he collapsed but that "oh by the way, you also test positive for covid". So he was on quarantine for 5 days along with his wife who tested positive a few days after him. And we saw him yesterday but he did not want to get too close to anyone just in case, and you can tell he is not back 100% still seems tired and worn out from it all. He said he thought you were going to look at Andre's Edelbrock, I said I did not remember but I figured either you or Wayne.

To answer your question about the EGR plate, yes I made a block-off plate for him, and after putting it on we had to get a dremel and grind away at it to make room for the throttle arm to be able to turn. But I am 99% sure of no vacuum leak from that area. It is really weird that his original Quadrajet and the new Edelbrock both have the same issue with a high idle that can't be easily explained.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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I dont think Andre's high idle is from a bad carb as he had 2 different carbs on it and both did the same thing.
He / me / we need to block off all vacuum hoses, power brake & PCV too and see if the idle is still high.
If still high then we need to find a way to check the manifold gaskets with out pulling the manifold.
Using smoke would work but I dont know how to make a smoke machine to fill the motor crank case?

I say fill the crank case with smoke and if a gasket is bad or anything else smoke will come out where the leak is.
Lets see if my PC will let me look how to make a smoke device
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 03:19 AM
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Well I don't mean that I thought the newish Edelbrock is bad, but Wayne (maybe, not 100% sure who?) said they had a screw on the underside that you could remove to get more airflow at idle, which is something you might do if you had installed it on a big motor. And since it was originally on Mike's 455 engine, maybe that previous modification had been made? None of us know including Mike who did not install it himself. I had taken a picture of the underside of the carb before we put it on but I didn't know that I should be looking for anything specific. But I agree with you that we should make every possible effort to verify no vacuum leaks



I don't know what I'm looking for, but maybe there is a bleed screw in one of those holes.

On a side note, both me and my buddy Tom picked up rusty project cars to turn into drag cars eventually on down the line. And neither of our wives know yet, so we gotta keep it on the down-low for the time being.



My friend Tom picked this 64 Fairlane up for $500, no motor or trans. Trunk floor looks good. It comes with a teardrop "thunderbolt" style hood.



Meanwhile I stumbled across this 67 Mustang, it has an inline-6 with 3 speed. Does not run. Owner having money trouble and needed to get rid of the project let me have it for 1k. Has rusty floor pans but "good enough for a race car".
 
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 07:24 AM
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On the carbs and that screw I know Holleys you can do that with don't of others but easy enough to pull carb and check.

I just got to get some time I can hook up with everyone to look that car over good and do some testing on.

Drag car cars more projects LOL
It's on the down low where you keeping it / them so the other halves don't find out so soon?
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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I put it at the storage place where I keep my 66 Mustang, except this one sitting outside for now. I told her at lunch today, I figured like a band-aid, better to just do it and get it over with. She was ok with it, the main thing for her would be if I was bringing it home to park in the yard. Which reminds me, I gotta get myself going on the Bullnose so I can get the parts truck out of the front yard! Maybe as soon as Spring hits.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:34 PM
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I know we talked about using parts from the parts truck on yours I just dont remember what all that was now.
The motor & trans are Tom's? in the parts truck, they still in it?

What rear axle is in the truck, 8,8 or 9"?
Also think it has a big wheel pattern and to wide for the Stang
The Stang being a six would have a 8" axle and 4 bolt wheels back then IIRC

I know you said drag car but a 300 six and a T5 5 speed transmission would make a neat little street car
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 03:32 AM
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Things I need from the parts truck are the wiring harness, and everything blue from the interior including the dash. It has the 9 inch rear with small bolt pattern, but the 6 cylinder Mustang I just got has a 4 lug pattern. The V8 cars got the 8 inch rear and the 6 cylinder cars got I think 7-1/4 rear. The only Mustangs that got a 9 inch were the Shelby's.

I do not know if a 300 would even fit in that 67, it might be too long! But like they say "if you got a cutoff wheel and a welder you can make anything fit". But speaking of drag cars we found a 63 Chevy II Nova at my buddy Larry's shop which could be a good fit for Andre, but when he asked his wife yesterday she said "no, absolutely not". He was a little bummed out but I think if he finishes his dune buggy and gets it sold she might be more receptive to the idea.

I told Sherry yesterday over lunch, I figured better to tell her now than wait 6 months and have her realize I was hiding it all along. She was ok with it as long as I'm not storing it here in the yard. I knew she would feel that way. Speaking of which, she said she saw Mary yesterday at Food Lion and said hello. Or maybe it was Thursday? My days are all jumbled together.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 06:01 AM
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I thought the v8 cars got the 9" I didnot know ford made a 7.25 rear axle unless they call that a 8" but would not think so?
I think the truck 9" is to wide for the Stang but some measuring should tell.
I did know of the 4 (6) & 5 (8) bolt patterns for the wheels as I have 1 of each Stang back in the day.

The 6 in the car is a 170 or 200?
I think the 300 would fit as I think all they did was stroke & bore the smaller block but could be wrong.
I have seen posted to use the 200 head on the 300 bumps up compression.
Think both have the same flow rates ......... POOR!

I did not want to say anything to Mary about the cars as I know the girls might meet and the bird would be out of the bag LOL
In Andre's case it might of been better to get it and ask for forgiveness than ask if he could get it LOL
Almost did that with 2 more bikes a few weeks back. Because I was checking on titles the extra day or 2 they were sold.
I was also trying to figure where I could put them in the garage. I need to talk to me son about his stuff.
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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8's and 9's are built the same way and look very similar, but the rear end used for the 6 cylinder Mustangs is totally different. It has a removable rear inspection cover like a GM or a Ford 8.8 has. I googled it and found some people calling it a 7.5 and others calling it a 7.25. Safe to say it's just a light duty weak axle that you probably would not want to use.

The car inline 6 and truck inline 6 are different motors completely, the 240/300 engine is quite a bit longer. The car 6 came as a 170, 200, or 250 depending on year. The guy said this one is a 200 which makes sense because I think early 66 was the end of the 170's. Then the 250's don't roll out until early 1970's.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 09:57 AM
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Dave, let me know how you make out with your son getting his stuff out of your garage...............If my son's got their stuff out of my garage, I sure would have a lot more room.
I've got an 8" like Cracker mentioned. Have to check the ratio to see if anyone can use it. Just the center section, not the whole axle housing.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2023 | 02:27 PM
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Dave, let me know how you make out with your son getting his stuff out of your garage...............If my son's got their stuff out of my garage, I sure would have a lot more room.
I've got an 8" like Cracker mentioned. Have to check the ratio to see if anyone can use it. Just the center section, not the whole axle housing.
Damn if you had the whole thing, housing and all, I would have jumped on that!
 
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