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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:15 AM
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I hope you bought the one for the EFI (88-97) engines, it is a straight up set unlike the 1972-87 set which has a 4° retard at the crank gear. I used to tell people to buy the early (1968-71) set but the manufacturers decided that one size fits all and dropped the early set and just show one set for 1968-87 429-460 engines.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 06:35 AM
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Bill,
I don't think Cloyes makes a retarded roller.
They all seem to have three keyways.
4° retarded, with a square
Straight up with a '0'
and 4° advanced with a triangle
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 03:32 AM
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I got the set for a 1992 EFI 460 so it should be a straight up set.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 03:43 AM
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Got the timing cover back on and picked up a new water pump plate today too. Should have this all buttoned up Wednesday.




 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 06:52 AM
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Good move getting the new plate, Chris.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackerrrr
Got the timing cover back on and picked up a new water pump plate today too. Should have this all buttoned up Wednesday.



You can't see it here but the old plate has several pinholes in it.
And that there is a prime example of why it's so important to change the coolant regularly.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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But you can see where it got into the pockets of the timing cover...

I'm pretty good about changing my coolant and my backing plate is still all pitted.
There's a lot of cavitation and scouring going on in there.
I don't think it can be helped.

Nice to see you're doing it right, so you don't have to deal with it again.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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I wonder how well that anti corrosion and water pump lubricant additive works?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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I think it's just emulsified oil.

Can't help with heat transfer.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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The old damper had a bit of a problem.






 

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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 04:56 PM
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What's up with the orange oil pan and orange 1" wide timing marking?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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What's up with the orange oil pan and orange 1" wide timing marking?
PO probably. The engine's been replaced sometime in the past. The rocker cover decal says 1977 model year. The engine's also been repainted before so it may have been apart for rebuild or ring job, no way to know right now.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackerrrr
The old damper had a bit of a problem
when the rubber gives up like that it can be hard to find the marks.
Imagine there's a pretty good groove worn in it too.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackerrrr
Got the timing cover back on and picked up a new water pump plate today too.
Can you post a part number 'for the record'?
This information might help others that find this thread in the future.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Jim, are you forgetting that the 385 engines like the FE and MEL have a sleeve or counter weight behind the balancer where the seal rides? Trackerrrr, if it is indeed a 1977 then it shouldn't have the "hatchet" counter weight behind the balancer, which doesn't look quite as bad as mine did.
 
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