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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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Not a bad idea Gary, that piece probably weighs 20 lbs.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 07:50 PM
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And get/make a different mount for the alternator, thereby ditching the air pump bracket?
I've been looking at the high and low mount aftermarket brackets. Are there stock brackets off a car that will work to raise it up? I can hit the junkyard pretty much every day.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Yes, there are brackets from cars that will work. Or, you can get one from a different engine, like the M, that has the arms for the air pump as separate pieces so they are easy to hacksaw off. This link shows what I did for Dad's truck.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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L&L, JBJ and others offer high mount 460 brackets.

You see many more of them if you look in the '70's truck forum, below this one.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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Or you could go full custom like I did for an alternator bracket.



That's from MM&M customs.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Pulled the front apart today to fix the leaky timing cover. Found a hole in the water pump plate. The timing chain's stretched so it'll be changed out too.













 
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Do yourself a favor, get the EFI timing chain set, it is a straight up roller set.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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^^^^ X2

That's nothing out of the ordinary given the brown sludge that was in there.

You're making great progress with the truck!

Check the little scrolls in the back side of the timing case around the water passages are not filled up.
This is your last defense against water pouring into the oil if you have a leak there.
At least it pisses to the outside where you can see it,
 
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
Do yourself a favor, get the EFI timing chain set, it is a straight up roller set.
I was thinking about going with a timing gear set like those on eBay so there'll be no stretch at all in the future. But, some say they are very noisy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GD-460-Gear-Drive-Timing-Set-Ford-429-460-Big-Block-/191318001327?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c8b7106af&vxp=mtr
 
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You can get noisy and quiet gear drive units, most 6 cylinder engines use gear drive from the factory.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 05:19 AM
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"Quiet" is not really quiet.
There is still some noise from steel gears even if they are helically cut.
The plastic coated factory ones in a 4.9l are pretty quiet.

Those look straight cut so it's going to howl like a blower on a drag car.
I hope you have a very loud stereo if you install those.

There's even a little noise from a roller chain that you don't get with the Hy-Vo type multi-plate stock chain.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
"Quiet" is not really quiet.
There is still some noise from steel gears even if they are helically cut.
The plastic coated factory ones in a 4.9l are pretty quiet.

Those look straight cut so it's going to howl like a blower on a drag car.
I hope you have a very loud stereo if you install those.

There's even a little noise from a roller chain that you don't get with the Hy-Vo type multi-plate stock chain.
Personally I like gear drives, but I wouldn't put one on a daily driver.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
"Quiet" is not really quiet.
There is still some noise from steel gears even if they are helically cut.
The plastic coated factory ones in a 4.9l are pretty quiet.

Those look straight cut so it's going to howl like a blower on a drag car.
I hope you have a very loud stereo if you install those.

There's even a little noise from a roller chain that you don't get with the Hy-Vo type multi-plate stock chain.
I went with a Cloyes double roller chain and gears. I thought about it and decided that as much as I'd like the gear whine, that would be cool for all of five minutes on the freeway before I got tired of it. Took me several hours to dig out all the blue silicone in the timing cover but I got it back on and fairly clean. Now to find a water pump plate in the morning...
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:46 AM
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There's even a little noise from a roller chain that you don't get with the Hy-Vo type multi-plate stock chain.
I couldn't find a Hy-Vo chain and sprockets anywhere around here. Everything was double roller or some variant thereof. Are the Hy-Vo chains any better?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Trackerrrr
I couldn't find a Hy-Vo chain and sprockets anywhere around here. Everything was double roller or some variant thereof. Are the Hy-Vo chains any better?
I don't think so.
They are cheaper to make, and perhaps a little quieter.
I have the 1122 chain on my truck and I'm happy with it.

At least there aren't shards of nylon clogging my pickup screen.
It took me almost an hour to clean all that stuff out when I had the pan off.
 
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