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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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I have the dizzy hooked up to timed vacuum, not full vacuum. I will look at the PDF later when I get home.

Is the edelbrock ever going to have the same low end power and start as easily a the old autolite did? If not I might take it back off.
The Eddy on my 85 351W HO with a manual choke starts instantly. Than push in the choke just a hair, drop her in gear and head for town. A mile or so down the road at the top of the hill I push the choke all the way in.
Never touch it the rest of the day no matter how many times I shut it off or restart it. Or how cold it is. And I have yet to get the proper jets and metering rods in it. Just set it by ear when it was put on new and never looked back.
It's a very simple self healing carb. It is for me anyway. I like a holly
but It seems I am always tuning them. The Eddys I have had. Prolly 8
are pretty much bolt on and go and never look back.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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That's good, I hope I can get mine to do that with the right rods and jets.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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Im just the opposite, I had a eddy and went to a quick fuel technology carburetor. With the eddy I had to pump the pedal a couple times to get it to start and use the choke to keep it running. With the quick fuel I don't have a choke and I go out and turn the key to start it. It also seems to have better throttle response and top end.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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ya I pump the gas a couple of times with the manual choke to start her cold like overnight or a few days. But from then on the rest of the day I can just reach in and bump the starter, Never even sit in the seat, and she starts every time. And Like I say this is an out of the box Eddy at sea level.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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ya I pump the gas a couple of times with the manual choke to start her cold like overnight or a few days. But from then on the rest of the day I can just reach in and bump the starter, Never even sit in the seat, and she starts every time. And Like I say this is an out of the box Eddy at sea level.
That's what I used to do and it was great!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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I swapped the jets around. Big ones in the primary's and small ones in the secondary's.

Now I can't even get it started it's flooding So bad.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
I swapped the jets around. Big ones in the primary's and small ones in the secondary's.

Now I can't even get it started it's flooding So bad.
Just at starter RPM!??? PO must have done something wrong or wierd. A holley with a blown out power valve will still let the engine start. Well, it was worth experimenting. It didn't cost you a dime.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:10 PM
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Does your current jets and rods match this?
Carburetor CFM Main Main Metering Step-Up Needle Float
Part No. Jet Jet Rod Spring & Seat Height
Primary Secondary (Primary only)
1404 500 .086" .095" .065" x .052" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1405 600 .100" .095" .070" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1406 600 .098" .095" .075" x .047" yellow (4") .0935" 7/16"
1407 750 .113" .107" .071" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1409* 600 .098" .101" .068" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1410* 750 .113" .107" .071" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1411 750 .110" .107" .075" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1412 800 .113" .101" .071" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
1413 800 .113" .101" .071" x .047" orange (5") .0935" 7/16"
Carburetor Specifications - All Models
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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The chart I tried to post above is jumbled. Go to here. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...404_manual.pdf
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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It had gas bubbleing out of places I didn't know gas could come out of.

I switched them back and it ran like it did before.

I don't know the history of this carb for sure, but I think it was on a hot rodded 390. I'm gonna read the manual and see what stock is supposed to be.

This carb/ intake should run like a raped ape, and I can't even do a burnout.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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I'm gonna read the manual and see what stock is supposed to be.
Yep. Click on the address I posted above then scroll down.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 12:04 AM
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Hmmmm...

I may have narrowed it down to something.

Tonight I took the truck out and set my timing and idle mixture together, finding the combo that worked best in terms of vacuum and idle speed. Now I'm at about 14-15* initial timing, and two turns on the mixture screws. My idle is set to about 700rpm and my vac gauge is reading 12-15 bouncing.

I took it out for a run down the freeway for about 4 miles to get everything going and blowing. The engine runs as smooth as it ever has for me. almost like it's running properly. But I can tell something is still a bit off.

Exhaust leak, I've had it for a while, but it's a small one so I didn't really pay much attention to it. Now that the engine is running better, I'm going to go after the leak. My question is, would a small exhaust leak cause a misfire and the vacuum gauge to bounce? It is an audible leak, I suspect from cylinder 4, or the flange on the passenger side. I'll look at it harder in the morning.

Now if I can just get my carb jetted right...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
Hmmmm...

I may have narrowed it down to something.

Tonight I took the truck out and set my timing and idle mixture together, finding the combo that worked best in terms of vacuum and idle speed. Now I'm at about 14-15* initial timing, and two turns on the mixture screws. My idle is set to about 700rpm and my vac gauge is reading 12-15 bouncing.

I took it out for a run down the freeway for about 4 miles to get everything going and blowing. The engine runs as smooth as it ever has for me. almost like it's running properly. But I can tell something is still a bit off.

Exhaust leak, I've had it for a while, but it's a small one so I didn't really pay much attention to it. Now that the engine is running better, I'm going to go after the leak. My question is, would a small exhaust leak cause a misfire and the vacuum gauge to bounce? It is an audible leak, I suspect from cylinder 4, or the flange on the passenger side. I'll look at it harder in the morning.

Now if I can just get my carb jetted right...
Exhaust leak will not affect cylinder performance. Bouncing vac gauge is indicative of a dead/under-performing cylinder.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Yea that's what I thought. But it's still running better than it ever has.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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In an attempt to regain my lost low end power, I got out my 2-4 adapter and stuck my old 2barrel on. It ran horrible. Worse than bad. Back to missing hard, no power at all, wouldn't shift.

So I stuck the 4 back on and it runs the same again. Maybe even a bit better. This time I out a phenolic spacer plate under the carb, maybe that's helping with air velocity.
 
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