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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 07:28 AM
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Option C is what I've been running also, and it's the easiest and least expensive. All you have to do is set the initial timing. One other thing, turn or remove the distributor every couple of years to make sure it doesn't get permanently stuck.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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Yea I've had a stuck distributor before. A big pair of vise grips and snake oil got it out.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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I just set the dwell on my points. Have a quick question.

Does the spark plug fire longer or shorter with a higher angle? Right now I set them to 24. If I go up will the plugs fire longer?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
I just set the dwell on my points. Have a quick question.

Does the spark plug fire longer or shorter with a higher angle? Right now I set them to 24. If I go up will the plugs fire longer?
Nope. The dwell is how long the coil is building. When the points open this creates the coil's magnetic field to fall. This then causes the coil to fire. Ford always listed 30 degrees of dwell.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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Ok, so then what effect does dwell have at different angles?

I don't understand points very well yet.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
Ok, so then what effect does dwell have at different angles?

I don't understand points very well yet.
How well and how much the coil get's "saturated". In therory at 24 the coil would not saturate as much and therefore not kick as strong a spark. I don't know about too much dwell. I am assuming the coil can only saturate so much so any angle past the 32ish mark would be wasted time. I think CougarJohn would be the guy to ask. He's smart cookie with a more Engineer mind.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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The dwell affects the timing. More dwell = later timing. You can see this easily with a dwell meter and a timing light.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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Ok. I'll dwell it up to about 30-32 and watch what it does to timing and stuff.
Thanks Jeff and Alex.

CougarJohn, anything to add?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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I set dwell to 30.5 and the timing to 8* BTC and... It still runs.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 11:18 PM
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With the timing at 8* I didn't like how it was running. Had a hard time with cold starts and short on pep. So I adjusted it, without knowing to what degree, to what felt best and started easily. Then I checked, and 12* is the sweet spot.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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Ahhhhhhrrrrggghhhh! I can't believe it. Yesterday the thing was running fine, took it on a 40mile trip. No problems.
Today I go out to leave and it barely starts and barely runs and keeps dieing out. It runs about normal at 1600rpm, but it won't idle and it won't go over 2k without jumping and popping.
I did put gas in yesterday, bad gas?

Points slip maybe?

Coil go bad?

I'd check before I asked but I'm working right now.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
Ahhhhhhrrrrggghhhh! I can't believe it. Yesterday the thing was running fine, took it on a 40mile trip. No problems.
Today I go out to leave and it barely starts and barely runs and keeps dieing out. It runs about normal at 1600rpm, but it won't idle and it won't go over 2k without jumping and popping.
I did put gas in yesterday, bad gas?

Points slip maybe?

Coil go bad?

I'd check before I asked but I'm working right now.
I'd check to see if points closed back up. Maybe you didn't get them quite tight enough. Bad gas definetely a possibility. Did you get some good name brand like Chevron type of gas or cheap grocery store stuff? Was there a tanker filling up the in-ground tanks while you were pumping the gas?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Grocery store cheap gas. Never had a problem with the brand before, but this was my first visit to this particular station.

I will definitely check points and what not.

Something's odd though, was running fine last night when I parked it.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Points are fine, I suspect the coil may be a problem, cuz my tachometer is bouncing.

But it seems most like a fuel problem, its also backfiring through the exhaust. Something it's never done before.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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351C are you against going away from the points? Not trying to start anything about points being bad or good, just curious.
 
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