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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
Yep.

I live on the south edge of Phoenix in chandler. 2 miles east of I-10. 3/8 mile south of me is open desert.
Oh damn the dust bowl of America. We have a few of those across the Colorado river covered Blyth up to Deserter Center a long I-10 hit Indio area.

Those dust storms, I don't miss!!
Thanks for the reply.
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by instig8r63
You've been unable to narrow down a spark issue, I'd be looking at lean condition. Does the idle go up if you lightly cup your hands over the top of the carb with the engine running?
I think Bobby's on to something here. If I remember right once in another thread you mentioned either #7 or #8' spark plug looked brand new. Like it had never been ran. You've mentioned using 2 carbs. But we've never asked what jets you have in there. I'll bet Bobby's right. A lean miss. Either stick the 4v on there you want or I'll let you borrow my extra Holley 2v Super Deuce. Right now there are 71 jets in it. I guarantee you won't have a lean miss with it!
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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Here's another thought to suggest mechanical problems. A buddy of mine and I put the top end on his chebbie and after adjusting the valve lash per the Chilton manual it had a dead miss we spent an hour or two researching we found out that the Chilton manual wasn't exactly right so we re adjusted the valve lash upon our research and guess what no more dead miss
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Also how did you adjust the valves? Did you let it run then tightend down the rockers till the lifters stopped ticking or did you torque them all to a specific torque number. Did you adjust them with out it running on the compression stroke first?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Been a while since I worked on a Cleveland but I believe they are pedestal mount and there's no adjustment on the valves.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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They are pedestal mounted but you have to adjust the lash of the rocker arm a regardless.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:01 PM
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What year model Cleveland do you have. Its a 74 right?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Some where back pages he said he was getting like 135+- from each cyl. hole so the should mean valves are damn close or right on..orich
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 75Three90
They are pedestal mounted but you have to adjust the lash of the rocker arm a regardless.
Huh? Explain the process.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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My bad nvm just tell me too stfu lol.



Valve timing
Intake opens before tdc
1971-73 351c 12degrees

V8-351c, 351m, 390, 400, 429 & 460 with non adjusts me hydraulic lifters

For these engines a .060" shorter push rod (color coded white) or a .060" longer push rod (color coded yellow) are available for service to provide a means of compensating for dimensional changes in the valve mechanism.


To check the clearence, bring the piston of the cylinder being checked on top dead center of the compression stroke. Then with hydraulic lifter collapsed, check the clearance between valve stem and rocker arm. If the clearance is less than the minimum listed in the specifications the .060" shorter push rod should be used. If the clearance is more than the maximum specified the .060" longer push rod should be used


Valve specs
1971-72
Int .100-
Ext .200
Seat 45
Face 44
Valve spring installed night
1 13/16

Valve spring pressure
Lbs. @ In.
80. @ 1.82
Stem Clearance
Int .001-.0027
Ext .0015-.0032

Stem diameter
Int .3416-.3423
Ext .3411-.3418
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:30 PM
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There ya go there is a way to adjust them
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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.060" difference in the pushrods.
I think the hydraulic lifters have a .050" tolerance. Part of cylinder head assembly by a reputable machine shop requires spring height installed measurement. On a head with pedestal mount rockers, spring height measurements exceeding the specified tolerances are adjusted by machining the valve stem tips.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Well the specified measure.end is 1 13/16 he may way to gave vc off to make sure. This information came from a 1975 auto repair manual trade edition. Pages 1-364 and pages 1-382
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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You can also machine the pedestals, install studs & guide plates and run adjustable rockers. Other than that, machine shops rebuild pedestal-mount heads within factory tolerances so that you do not need to worry about measuring and installing different length pushrods.
As someone already stated, the compression numbers are not indicative of a tight valve.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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The problem is fuel has been fuel out fire has been ruled out he never replied to my question about blow by on cylinder 8 because chromiloy rings some times don't seat right. There is no logical explanitaion other than valves ain't right or the rings haven't set right or the compression reading was of
 
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