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Old May 17, 2013 | 01:55 PM
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I would go through the AE and grab every supply voltage possible (not sensor voltages) to see if a 5 V line or the 12 V feeds are as advertised.
?????
I don't suppose you can think of a variable that could tie to this... like one reading with engine warm and the other with engine cold.
Both were with warm engine
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Try unplogging the ebps while koeo... then cycle the key...
Then plug it in again... cycle koeo again...

See if the r3ading changes...
Tried this ^ and here is what I got with a cold engine...

And even more bizarre...

This is warm with warm engine. A couple of heavy accelerations and looks like back to normal at the end of the graph. I think the weird spikes are at pause or unpause.
 
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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I really don't trust your EBP sensor... too weird. At least that one is not overly expensive.
 
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Old May 25, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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Is this the one? I don't understand all these AE packages, add ons, and whatnot. I just know this one is cheap. I love saving money!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AutoEnginuity-OBDII-OBD2-Windows-Scan-Tool-Scanner-USB-/290921039938?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item4 3bc3ec842&vxp=mtr
 
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Old May 25, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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I would sure contact them to verify what package comes with it.
You need the ford enhanced powertrain bundle.
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Sorry... not so easy. Look at the model number: It is a ST05 base unit. That is an old-style OBDII port interface (newest is ST06) that may or may not work with the enhanced Ford features ( I suspect it will work). It is a unit that has been "refurbished" by a third party - not associated with AE or the seller. If that price holds until June 2 and you order a Ford bundle to go with it, it may very well be OK... but you're only saving $70 from the time I looked at the bid. You would be getting a used unit for $320, instead of $390 (tax, shipping, whatever added) for a new one... with a warranty and support. But hey... $70 ain't nuthin', so drop AE an email and ask about the compatibility while you wait for the bidding to close.
 
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Old May 26, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Head in circles again.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 06:19 AM
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I did more homework and the ST05 should work with the Ford bundle.

Basically, if you order AE with the Ford bundle from Clay, you get a package deal... plus you get the good-buddy Clay "discount". Buying a piece on ebay and adding the Ford bundle by itself will sag the supposed savings. See?

If you found AE with the Ford bundle on ebay, that would work.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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I have 1 question and 1 problem.
I have to activate my Ford enhancement every time I use the AE. Is this normal?

I just did injector cups and o-rings so I have a few "add on" codes. Besides the face that I somehow broke the ICP. Must've been when the bucket I was stangind on slipped out from under me. Bus anyway, The AE won't let me do a KAM reset. It keeps telling me test failed unknown error. Any Ideas?
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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The kam error just means you had the batteries disconnected. I had similar issues with my AE with having to re-actvate, I called AE and they said it was due to the dongle, it all has to be attached BEFORE you start the program, I had issues due to two of the usb ports being next to each other and it not having room to be inserted correctly when next to each other.

I found it was much cheaper to purchase from Clay@ Riffraff then it was to drive 6 miles and buy directly from AE. Crazy but true, like 60 bucks cheaper for the Ford bundle. Then I ended up spending the same amount again to get dodge and Chevy also.
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
I did more homework and the ST05 should work with the Ford bundle.

Basically, if you order AE with the Ford bundle from Clay, you get a package deal... plus you get the good-buddy Clay "discount". Buying a piece on ebay and adding the Ford bundle by itself will sag the supposed savings. See?

If you found AE with the Ford bundle on ebay, that would work.
reading the ad on Ebay it looks like it would work, but only on Model year 2004 and older.....
 
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Old May 27, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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I have 1 question and 1 problem.
I have to activate my Ford enhancement every time I use the AE. Is this normal?
You might try right-clicking on the install program and select "Run as Administrator".
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 12:20 AM
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caught up and subscribed. is the "no start how to" going to continue?
AE has been handy so far with my crank/no start. I can only imagine what i could do if i knew what i was doing with it.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 04:14 AM
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I can only imagine what i could do if i knew what i was doing with it.
Ah... that brings up a good point: Why a scan tool and how far should I take it? I've seen countless no-start threads... with a storm of them beginning in the fall. I've seen advice like "Swap CPS" and "Replace ICP", when it was just loose battery cables or expired batteries. Why the hunt and peck of parts with the poster's pesos? No readings from the truck to give the correct advice the first time. The last links in my signature have a lot of help for those with a scan tool and a problem to solve. If you record some data (proper running or not) and don't understand what it means, feel free to share a graph or the data... and ask away. I can't always come up with scenarios of things to teach here, because I count on trucks with problems to share their data. I can then compare it with my "library" of data and show a difference. I also have a modified truck, so my new graphs are useless when comparing much of my information.

The foundation for getting started is already here:
  • Setting up for connection
  • Pulling and clearing codes
  • How to select and configure PIDs to monitor
  • Which PIDs to monitor for common problems
  • How to record data
  • How to share data
  • How to interpret key sensors
Once you have the above, a Powertrain Control and Emission Diagnostics manual (plus a wiring diagram and a couple of gauges) will take you to the next level.

I'm not saying everybody should master a scan tool. I'm saying it's a small investment into our aging trucks. The chances of needing a tow to the dealership for a hookup increase with each passing mile/year... OR have this bad boy on hand and a copy on file from one of the links in my signature (or internet access to FTE), and be a road warrior. Not starting in the driveway is one thing, but I've seen a lot of "On the side of road" threads end up with happy endings within 15 minutes of posting on FTE, and "Found this with AE" stories from people after safely returning home. I have also experienced issues that can have more than one possible root cause, and AE flipped the big red neon "Looky here!" sign for me. I have a carputer... with AE, GPS, ISSPRO EV2 interface, tuner interface, and all my digital documentation for the truck (including FTE write-ups). I also carry some tools and a few common parts. Stinky always gets us home from no matter how far we travel... but sometimes he needs a nudge. That's where some would give a valued appendage to have AE with them - nudge time.

Save $370 today (on AE, for example)... then get a tow to a shop on vacation, wait for their business hours, get charged a diagnostic fee, and the labor to tighten a loose IPR (or some other simple thing). Any bets on the savings here? How about that prepaid cabin you're not sleeping in? Not only do you have an altered itinerary, you can't even make a new one until you know what's going on. If you have a scan tool and know it's more serious than a loose sensor, you at least know where you stand and what needs to be done... before Monday. What dollar value do you put on peace of mind... or your family's vacation time?

Fortney5096 - You have already made a good choice, whether you use it to the max or not. I chose to go the "over the top" route... and I have a truck that I know is 100% because of it.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
Ah... that brings up a good point: Why a scan tool and how far should I take it? I've seen countless no-start threads... with a storm of them beginning in the fall. I've seen advice like "Swap CPS" and "Replace ICP", when it was just loose battery cables or expired batteries. Why the hunt and peck of parts with the poster's pesos? No readings from the truck to give the correct advice the first time. The last links in my signature have a lot of help for those with a scan tool and a problem to solve. If you record some data (proper running or not) and don't understand what it means, feel free to share a graph or the data... and ask away. I can't always come up with scenarios of things to teach here, because I count on trucks with problems to share their data. I can then compare it with my "library" of data and show a difference. I also have a modified truck, so my new graphs are useless when comparing much of my information.

The foundation for getting started is already here:
  • Setting up for connection
  • Pulling and clearing codes
  • How to select and configure PIDs to monitor
  • Which PIDs to monitor for common problems
  • How to record data
  • How to share data
  • How to interpret key sensors
Once you have the above, a Powertrain Control and Emission Diagnostics manual (plus a wiring diagram and a couple of gauges) will take you to the next level.

I'm not saying everybody should master a scan tool. I'm saying it's a small investment into our aging trucks. The chances of needing a tow to the dealership for a hookup increase with each passing mile/year... OR have this bad boy on hand and a copy on file from one of the links in my signature (or internet access to FTE), and be a road warrior. Not starting in the driveway is one thing, but I've seen a lot of "On the side of road" threads end up with happy endings within 15 minutes of posting on FTE, and "Found this with AE" stories from people after safely returning home. I have also experienced issues that can have more than one possible root cause, and AE flipped the big red neon "Looky here!" sign for me. I have a carputer... with AE, GPS, ISSPRO EV2 interface, tuner interface, and all my digital documentation for the truck (including FTE write-ups). I also carry some tools and a few common parts. Stinky always gets us home from no matter how far we travel... but sometimes he needs a nudge. That's where some would give a valued appendage to have AE with them - nudge time.

Save $370 today (on AE, for example)... then get a tow to a shop on vacation, wait for their business hours, get charged a diagnostic fee, and the labor to tighten a loose IPR (or some other simple thing). Any bets on the savings here? How about that prepaid cabin you're not sleeping in? Not only do you have an altered itinerary, you can't even make a new one until you know what's going on. If you have a scan tool and know it's more serious than a loose sensor, you at least know where you stand and what needs to be done... before Monday. What dollar value do you put on peace of mind... or your family's vacation time?

Fortney5096 - You have already made a good choice, whether you use it to the max or not. I chose to go the "over the top" route... and I have a truck that I know is 100% because of it.
not trying to long cat/hijack thread. Where is the best, for a novice, source of information on how to run/operate the AE and modify values without an operational truck? Followed the link provided for scan tools. Showed some great information. taking it from english to AE is where i get lost. i cannot even get the EBP to show as PSI. all i have is volts. Unless i am in the wrong Initialization Type, been using "OBDII compliant".
Thanks for the help so far.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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tried to upload live record. This is the best i can do. EBP was 0.89v after cleaning sensor and tube. Is the EBP sensor toast?
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