There was one on there that cost something like $7.99 but it was 197* instead of 180. Then I need a gasket and some paint. Probably some sand paper as well. Sounds like a plan for this week.

 

Sounds like a good little project, the cold weather is causing mine to drip very slowly forming a small puddle over night, I'll get to that sometime though as it doesn't leak on a warmer day or after the engine warms up lol

 

Yeah I figured when mine warms up the metal will expand and seal it up. The RTV there looks pretty beat up so if i can find some black high temp I would be happy, that way there won't be some ugly red/orange goop everywhere. Say, that Hondabond stuff, do they sell it at autozone do you think? I tried their website and got nothing.

 

Usually you have to go to a Honduh dealer or some place like that, if you can't find it just use the grey RTV. It might not be exactly the same but it should be close enough. If you buy it let me know if it comes out of the tube a little runny and light grey. Also put a tiny bit of it on something then after it dries try to scrape it off. If it comes off pretty easy then I'd say it's pretty much the same stuff.

 

Alright, I might just use RTV then. It will be easier to get a hold of.

 

So it seems that there are a few kinks to work out of the system before it will be good but it seems to be doing a lot better on cold starts. Hot starts however.... The starter still has a hard time, I think I need to re-check the timing.

 

Fail-safe? I don't even think those words should be used near each other.

If you like the performance of advanced timing you can do the coil cut off button trick. Get a push button that is normally closed (on) and opens when you push it. Then wire your positive coil wire through it. When the truck is hot, push the button, turn the key, get the engine spinning, then release the button. That way the engine isn't 'fighting' the starter at first. Works like a champ!

 

Sooo nothing to report on the bronco except that it is doing a lot better in the morning cold starts. I don't know why it ran bad at my friends, maybe cause it was colder up there or something. Who knows.

I was thinking, would it be worth it to build a 460 and replace the 351 instead of building a 400 to drop in? A 460 should match up with the C-6 and the motor mounts right? And they are more powerful, or so I understand. If I could find a good priced one and just build it up like I planned, it should fit like a glove. I think.

 

All that really needs changed from what I understand is the motor mounts, that's it. They aren't very expensive. I think it would be worth it, I'm not that big on 385 series engines but for a bigger engine, more power and the same or better gas mileage I'd go for it. Plus you could freshen up the 460 before you install it so you have a new engine pretty much lol.

 

I might have to look into that. I have always wanted to say i had a 460 in my truck Fuel mileage I am not super concerned about, I just wasn't sure about the mounts and stuff. It would be something to consider. I also don't know about any bloodline issues with the 460's like if their heads are easily warped or something is known to break. I haven't researched too much into those motors.

 

The main problem they have are lubrication issues to the camshaft and areas like that. I don't know of any head issues, but I know they are heavier and slower than FE engines :P haha. For how easy it is to swap I'd do it. I'm sure gas mileage would be better than what your getting now.

 

I'm sure the MPG would be too haha. Lubrication could be an issue but it can't be too terrible. So far on craigslist I found a few ranging from $600 down to $300~ Some aren't bad but despite how I have been told to identify them using the valve covers, some either don't have a valve cover or have custom ones that don't look the same. And IIRC the 351M and 460 both had 8 bolt covers. It would most likely end up being a really slow rebuild due to money and probably lack of shop use UNLESS Yahiko helped out and lent his shop/garage thing. Then the issue would be money based. I figure my Edelbrock 400 intake should fit a 460, i think the valley is the same. But I would need a 600~cfm carb since I wouldn't want to torture my Carter more than it needs to be. If my garage wasn't such a mess and if it could stay clean, "maybe" I wouldn't mind building a motor in there but with my step dad moving around and how much stuff gets moved, it would be a challenge keeping bolts or whatever parts I will reuse around. If I got a 460, I would be less inclined to bore the cylinders or go performance crazy since it already does pretty good.

The FE motors might be lighter with more performance but they were also built for cars, not a big *** bronco. Where as the 460 is a sister engine for this thing. I think it is a pretty cool idea but I need to research the motor more and see if there is anything I dislike about them. Besides the weight and lack of fuel mileage ofc.

EDIT: I forgot about this thread... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...78-bronco.html
I have read through it before, I know for sure if I dropped a 460 in, I definitely want to change the design of the trans cooler to get better cooling. And keep an eye on engine cooling to make sure it doesn't over heat. I thought about putting an aftermarket trans cooler setup in when I had the C-6 rebuilt but didn't get around to it. I need to win the lotto, then do all of this

 

I'm pretty sure coolant runs through the 460's heads and intake, plus it's a different bolt pattern lol. I just saw one with dual 600 cfm holley carbs, 429 4 bolt main with 460 heads and crank for 3500, what a ripoff! and it has a 20 year old oil filter on it.

 

So I was thinking about posting some other cars that I thought were cool. These were all cars we used to have after moving up here to Washington from California. The only year i officially know is the Mustang. It's a 68. The plymouth scamp i can only guess around a 73, and the cougar might be late 60s as well. My memory of these cars are foggy since I wasn't fully into cars at that age so some of the specs I don't remember. Anyways, we have identified a 289 and a 351W which I assume were from the mustang and cougar. And I *think* they were swapped around but I cannot be sure till I ask my parents. Anywho, onto the pics.

Scamp:






This car, I was sad to see it go. But it had a badly bent frame and so many other problems that my bronco would look like a simple toy.

Cougar: Ignore the Chevy van


351 I *think* Also i am sure this is the cougar bay, the other 2 cars were not as clean.




289 from the stang?




I like these seats




It had some body damage that was repaired in the back.


I think the motor wasn't in when we got it




Onto the 68 Mustang:




At the PO's house.









And that's it. Sorry about the image spam, I posed more than I originally planned. But i figured since i had found these, I might as well share them. I know they aren't Bronco's but you know, you gotta take a break once in a while. I forgot i had these so I uploaded them and thought I would share them too.

 

If you get the donor 460 out of a truck, the motor mounts will work fine. If the donor 460 comes out of a car, you need to change oil pans, oil pump pick up, and motor mounts. 460 is a good swap - easy to build cheap power.