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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Actually most formula's don't allow many drive by wire systems for that reason (safety)
Sorry I didn't make myself clearer..... I meant the car is on track and the "driver" is in a room somewhere other than in the car. Sort of like a simulator only controlling the "on track" car. Fully drive by wire.....

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 06:18 AM
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Actually most formula's don't allow many drive by wire systems for that reason (safety), with the belief that mechanical linkages of core components (brakes, throttle, steering) are safer.

As that technology progresses, no doubt those limitations will no doubt as well... but I would envisage that if they do allow all the drive by wire stuff it will be for performance reasons, not safety.Yeah, and that sucks if I am honest.
Drivers in Nascar can earn decent money (less than F1, but not significantly so), and they don't have to leave their home to do it, so that's where the majority of the decent drivers in the states end up.

I think if F1 was serious about making an impact in the US - building a US driver program where there is a solid pathway from American racing programs to F1 (like there is in Formula 2 etc.) would be the critical.
Even more aggressive would be for them to back a manufacturer to spend big dollars to poach Dale Earnhardt Jr (or someone similar) for a couple of years and put him in a decent car. He may not do well, but it would sure attract a bunch of US fans and start something.
Yeah, it would be nice to have something like that happen. But I would think that it would be a horribly steep learning curve to go from stock cars to formula 1 unless you already had some open wheel experience like Tony Stewart or Sam Hornish Jr.
 

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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigF350

Actually most formula's don't allow many drive by wire systems for that reason (safety), with the belief that mechanical linkages of core components (brakes, throttle, steering) are safer.

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Wasn't Ayrton Senna's death caused by broken steering column? Was that investigation ever resolved?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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As Ayrton entered Tamburello corner, the tire temps where not up because of the previous yellow flag, the car bottomed out at the fastest corner in all of F1...the car did not turn....much speculation as to weather or not the column broke then or on impact.....bottom line Michale S saw the car NOT respond to input...which of course upon impact on the RF caused the upper "A" arm to shear and go into his helmet.

The steering shaft was modified after Roland's death....which on the time line was very short before the start of the race.....odd things.

Frank Williams finally destroyed the car after it was given back by Italian authorities YEAS after the accident ...and guess how was part of that design...Adrian of Red Bull.

It is said it still haunts him to this day
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Guys it is time to watch my Red cars get on the front row of the best track in F1
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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Something happened to FA's car...ug....10th
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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I am a member of Ferrari and on the controlled site they are saying it split a rear anti-roll bar....I am wondering if the car is in Parc Ferme can they change that
 
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Alonso said we would find out later but he was as fast as Hamilton. Team leader said it was the rear sway bar. 10th is a long way to the front....but it has been done! Massa held his own; good job!

Would he let Alonso go past?

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I am wondering if the car is in Parc Ferme can they change that
Good question. I don't think so. Unless they start from pit lane; last. Or it is considered a safety issue??? But I think that only applies to/with tires.

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34.5 If a competitor modifies any part on the car or makes changes to the set up of the suspension whilst the car is being held under parc ferme conditions the relevant driver must start the race from the pit lane and follow the procedures laid out in Article 38.2.
Heck here's the F1 link: http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/ru.../8685/fia.html
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Well it is a safety issues, the car would have a huge push in it....so
 
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Boys, I think we had a RACE!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Boys, I think we had a RACE!
I'll agree too !
 
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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YEEEHAAA...we where 42 in front at Spa and he is back up to 37 point gap...GREAT GREAT race...
 
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Yep, Fernando did a great job. So did Hamilton, Masa and especially Perez!

Great race overall

And I am liking the officials deciding on rapid evaluations of incidents. Tough penalties for unfair tactics!

What changed that Perez was able to pass the Ferraris so easily? He was rapidly closing the gap on Hamilton also. ?????
 
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Rapid is with they need I hate waiting until the end or two days from never...

When FA got ran off the outside of turn 3 by Seb ...he heavily damaged the under tray in the center of the car...right down the tub...
 
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