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Well that was not my preferred outcome but thanks to Lewis for passing Vettle. Alonzo still has a chance if he can kick *** in Brazil! Nice to finish the season with an Alonzo/Masa one two in Brazil.
Masa is clearly coming back. I guess his new contract got rid of any doubts that he may have been harboring. Before his accident he was as quick as anyone and he looked really good today.
Great job by Lewis, Vettle couldn't show him much today.
Alonzo needs to take a victory next week to become the champ.
Masa is clearly coming back. I guess his new contract got rid of any doubts that he may have been harboring. Before his accident he was as quick as anyone and he looked really good today.
Great job by Lewis, Vettle couldn't show him much today.
Alonzo needs to take a victory next week to become the champ.
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From: 3rd Rock
Well gents...only 71 laps to define a year....it has been exciting, not so much for my desired outcome but for F1 it has truly been a great year, so many champions lining up every fortnight.
No matter what the outcome...some here might think because of my words, I do not think much of Seb, it could not be further from the truth.....I only want the Red cars to win, if he was driving for Scuderia...he would be the greatest driver in the world...well next to Fernando.
Good luck to all for asafe race.
No matter what the outcome...some here might think because of my words, I do not think much of Seb, it could not be further from the truth.....I only want the Red cars to win, if he was driving for Scuderia...he would be the greatest driver in the world...well next to Fernando.
Good luck to all for asafe race.
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From: Sunset Hills, MO.
At first, I didn't understand the general dislike for Seb, only after reading every post and watching every video, did I see something. i was a Ferrari fan in the mid 60's, somehow fell away from the sport and didn't get interested until RB started making a lot of noise. I thought cool, something is happening now. After reading everything here, it dawned on me that I had lost my passion for Ferrari. Made in a country full of passion, in architecture art, cars and history ! Let's not forget the women either !
Net result, I've left the RB garage and rejoined Ferrari and am happy to be back. Somehow I did notice when Shu did win, who couldn't, but it seemed F1 was too distant to pay attention to.
Now, my only problem is, I have a friend that works for RB Entertainment, my ticket source and feel as I am straddling a fence, I suppose I've had worse problems.
Net result, I've left the RB garage and rejoined Ferrari and am happy to be back. Somehow I did notice when Shu did win, who couldn't, but it seemed F1 was too distant to pay attention to.
Now, my only problem is, I have a friend that works for RB Entertainment, my ticket source and feel as I am straddling a fence, I suppose I've had worse problems.
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I got my last minute HS gift catalog today and there is, on page 77, ( Quote from catalog )
" The Carrera Slot Car set "
" This slot-car set is made by Carrera, the worlds most prestigious slot-car maker since 1963. Available only from Hammacher Schlemmer, the set's 29 1/2' of track challenges racers' skills with two loops,two lane changes, a flyover, and a 180 degree high-banked curve. Two richly detailed 1:43 Formula 1 Ferrari cars ( representing F1 drivers Fernando Alonso's and Felipe Massa's cars ) use a specially designed double-contact brush, which provides a secure connection to the track. Each handheld control provides a boost button for 25% more power when tackling loops and on straightaways. Includes automatic lap counter. Durable ABS plastic withstands years of intense racing. Plugs into AC. Ages 8 and up. Imported. Assembled track requires 7' 7 3/4" x 3' 3 3/4" set-up area. ( 12 lbs.) JU-81104 $119.95
Track Extension Set. Includes six straightaways, two lane changes, one chicane and two overpasses. Lengthens track to 37'. JU-70209 $29.95
Eight extra brushes JU-70210 $5.95.
Pictured display does look like the " old nose piece "
800.543.3366 On page 77.
I raced 1:24 scale in the 60's and had a Carrera "Dynomo". Fastest car out of the box & only had two options, a faster, rewound armature and softer tires, only competition was an identical "Dynomo" & we were limited to the two upper lanes only, but we could change lanes with steering wheel. Car cost $200.00 & controller was $125.00, in 1965.
Just something of interest that came my way and decided to pass along, especially because of the two cars.
Tom Dimond
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" The Carrera Slot Car set "
" This slot-car set is made by Carrera, the worlds most prestigious slot-car maker since 1963. Available only from Hammacher Schlemmer, the set's 29 1/2' of track challenges racers' skills with two loops,two lane changes, a flyover, and a 180 degree high-banked curve. Two richly detailed 1:43 Formula 1 Ferrari cars ( representing F1 drivers Fernando Alonso's and Felipe Massa's cars ) use a specially designed double-contact brush, which provides a secure connection to the track. Each handheld control provides a boost button for 25% more power when tackling loops and on straightaways. Includes automatic lap counter. Durable ABS plastic withstands years of intense racing. Plugs into AC. Ages 8 and up. Imported. Assembled track requires 7' 7 3/4" x 3' 3 3/4" set-up area. ( 12 lbs.) JU-81104 $119.95
Track Extension Set. Includes six straightaways, two lane changes, one chicane and two overpasses. Lengthens track to 37'. JU-70209 $29.95
Eight extra brushes JU-70210 $5.95.
Pictured display does look like the " old nose piece "
800.543.3366 On page 77.
I raced 1:24 scale in the 60's and had a Carrera "Dynomo". Fastest car out of the box & only had two options, a faster, rewound armature and softer tires, only competition was an identical "Dynomo" & we were limited to the two upper lanes only, but we could change lanes with steering wheel. Car cost $200.00 & controller was $125.00, in 1965.
Just something of interest that came my way and decided to pass along, especially because of the two cars.
Tom Dimond
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From: 3rd Rock
That is cool ya came back....I am a HUGE team fan, I have always said I never cared who drove just win with it, the more I watch how good Fernando is with a lousy car the more respect.
IMO Seb has not proven his worth in a crap car...Jensen and Hamy have....so, I'm just saying.
That was a ton of money in "65"
IMO Seb has not proven his worth in a crap car...Jensen and Hamy have....so, I'm just saying.
That was a ton of money in "65"
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That was a pretty incredible race. I certainly was on the edge of my seat.
Vettel was lucky not to break his suspension:
Was great to see some class overtaking in the race, and definately going to miss this guy:
Vettel was lucky not to break his suspension:
Was great to see some class overtaking in the race, and definately going to miss this guy:
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From: Santa Cruz Mountains
Thanks for the pics. Yes taking two hits and finishing was very lucky. While the kid has some skill; Alonso out drove him this season with a crap car. I still firmly believe that Raikkonen could have avoided cutting down his tire; taking him out of winning the drivers championship.
Massa got his grove back and with better cars, we hope, next year should bring them both to the podium more often and be a winning season!
111 days of development left!
I couldn't afford to go more than a few times myself; just to watch was .50 to get in!....
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Massa got his grove back and with better cars, we hope, next year should bring them both to the podium more often and be a winning season!
111 days of development left!
Car cost $200.00 & controller was $125.00, in 1965.
~~~~That was a ton of money in "65"~~~~
~~~~That was a ton of money in "65"~~~~
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From: 3rd Rock
Adrian...I agree it was one to remember
On another note...I wish we could be consistent on ...well important stuff...things what will change championship outcome.
I know Ferrari will not protest .....
On another note...I wish we could be consistent on ...well important stuff...things what will change championship outcome.
28 November 2012 - 08h26, by Andy Young
Fresh video evidence has recently emerged on the internet of Sebastian Vettel carrying out a blatantly illegal overtake on one of the Toro Rossos during the opening laps of the Brazilian Grand Prix, continuing strong speculation that the German broke the sporting regulations during his Championship-winning drive.
During the broadcast of the Brazilian Grand Prix, Sky Sports F1 broke away from the usual FOM feed of the action to show a replay of Sebastian Vettel overtaking Kamui Kobayashi throughout the final sector of the track. Admittedly the pair had just negotiated a yellow flag zone, however it was quite clear that the Red Bull driver completed his overtake after the yellow flag zone had ended. The suspected yellow light was in fact a yellow and red light warning the drivers of the slippery track conditions as the rain began to fall.
A second overtake by Sebastian Vettel on a HRT was also alleged to be illegal, however close investigation of this second overtake also clearly shows that it was legal and was carried out only moments before the pair entered a yellow flag zone. However, a third overtake by Sebastian Vettel which was not picked up upon during the race broadcast shows the reigning World Champion completing an overtaking maneuver on a Toro Rosso down the back straight, only moments before exiting the yellow flag zone. This is clearly stated by the German’s dashboard upon his RB8, with two yellow lights remaining constant just below the rev-counter.
This new video footage could well have serious implications throughout the world of Formula 1, should any team [such as Ferrari] wish to protest to the FIA. Any team wishing to do so will have until Friday 30th November to officially approach the sport’s governing body on the matter.
Should the FIA find Sebastian Vettel’s maneuver on the Toro Rosso to be illegal, then a twenty-second timed penalty would more than likely be added to his time, demoting him to 8th in the race classification and therefore crowning Fernando Alonso Champion in what would be one of the most controversial twists in the history of the sport. No team has yet to approach the FIA on this matter, and after the above deadline will be unable to do so.
Fresh video evidence has recently emerged on the internet of Sebastian Vettel carrying out a blatantly illegal overtake on one of the Toro Rossos during the opening laps of the Brazilian Grand Prix, continuing strong speculation that the German broke the sporting regulations during his Championship-winning drive.
During the broadcast of the Brazilian Grand Prix, Sky Sports F1 broke away from the usual FOM feed of the action to show a replay of Sebastian Vettel overtaking Kamui Kobayashi throughout the final sector of the track. Admittedly the pair had just negotiated a yellow flag zone, however it was quite clear that the Red Bull driver completed his overtake after the yellow flag zone had ended. The suspected yellow light was in fact a yellow and red light warning the drivers of the slippery track conditions as the rain began to fall.
A second overtake by Sebastian Vettel on a HRT was also alleged to be illegal, however close investigation of this second overtake also clearly shows that it was legal and was carried out only moments before the pair entered a yellow flag zone. However, a third overtake by Sebastian Vettel which was not picked up upon during the race broadcast shows the reigning World Champion completing an overtaking maneuver on a Toro Rosso down the back straight, only moments before exiting the yellow flag zone. This is clearly stated by the German’s dashboard upon his RB8, with two yellow lights remaining constant just below the rev-counter.
This new video footage could well have serious implications throughout the world of Formula 1, should any team [such as Ferrari] wish to protest to the FIA. Any team wishing to do so will have until Friday 30th November to officially approach the sport’s governing body on the matter.
Should the FIA find Sebastian Vettel’s maneuver on the Toro Rosso to be illegal, then a twenty-second timed penalty would more than likely be added to his time, demoting him to 8th in the race classification and therefore crowning Fernando Alonso Champion in what would be one of the most controversial twists in the history of the sport. No team has yet to approach the FIA on this matter, and after the above deadline will be unable to do so.
I know Ferrari will not protest .....
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I know Ferrari will not protest .....
Article 179b of the international sporting code says: "If, in events forming part of an FIA championship, a new element is discovered, whether or not the stewards of the meeting have already given a ruling, these stewards of the meeting or, failing this, those designated by the FIA must meet… summoning the party or parties concerned to hear any relevant explanations and to judge in the light of the facts and elements brought before them."
Article this Thursday morning with shorter view of the pass:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/mo...-1226526403201
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