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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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FA is gettin it done


Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m15.259s 43
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m15.313s +0.054 36
3. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m15.410s + 0.151 39
4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m15.531s + 0.272 44
5. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m15.544s + 0.285 32
6. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m15.651s + 0.392 37
7. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m15.697s + 0.438 32
8. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m15.799s + 0.540 39
9. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m15.812s + 0.553 14
10. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m15.878s + 0.619 40
11. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m15.898s + 0.639 38
12. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m15.907s + 0.648 41
13. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m15.987s + 0.728 39
14. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m16.360s + 1.101 29
15. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m16.562s + 1.303 33
16. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m16.981s + 1.722 24
17. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m17.022s + 1.763 22
18. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m17.075s + 1.816 41
19. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m17.124s + 1.865 41
20. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m17.716s + 2.457 34
21. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m18.908s + 3.649 27
22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m19.084s + 3.825 40
23. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m19.378s + 4.119 21
24. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m19.902s + 4.643 18
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Q3 .... soon. Results for Practice 3:

<table class="thin"><tbody><tr><td>Pos.</td> <td>No.</td> <td>Driver</td> <td>Car</td> <td>Best lap</td> <td>Gap</td> <td>Laps</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>1</td> <td>Sebastian Vettel</td> <td>Red Bull-Renault</td> <td>1’14.442</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>5</td> <td>Fernando Alonso</td> <td>Ferrari</td> <td>1’14.448</td> <td>0.006</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>4</td> <td>Lewis Hamilton</td> <td>McLaren-Mercedes</td> <td>1’14.712</td> <td>0.270</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>2</td> <td>Mark Webber</td> <td>Red Bull-Renault</td> <td>1’14.724</td> <td>0.282</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>18</td> <td>Pastor Maldonado</td> <td>Williams-Renault</td> <td>1’14.755</td> <td>0.313</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>6</td> <td>Felipe Massa</td> <td>Ferrari</td> <td>1’14.767</td> <td>0.325</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>7</td> <td>Michael Schumacher</td> <td>Mercedes</td> <td>1’14.796</td> <td>0.354</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>10</td> <td>Romain Grosjean</td> <td>Lotus-Renault</td> <td>1’14.873</td> <td>0.431</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>9</td> <td>Kimi Raikkonen</td> <td>Lotus-Renault</td> <td>1’14.977</td> <td>0.535</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>12</td> <td>Nico Hulkenberg</td> <td>Force India-Mercedes</td> <td>1’14.992</td> <td>0.550</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>11</td> <td>11</td> <td>Paul di Resta</td> <td>Force India-Mercedes</td> <td>1’15.067</td> <td>0.625</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>12</td> <td>15</td> <td>Sergio Perez</td> <td>Sauber-Ferrari</td> <td>1’15.112</td> <td>0.670</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>13</td> <td>14</td> <td>Kamui Kobayashi</td> <td>Sauber-Ferrari</td> <td>1’15.126</td> <td>0.684</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>14</td> <td>19</td> <td>Bruno Senna</td> <td>Williams-Renault</td> <td>1’15.237</td> <td>0.795</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>15</td> <td>3</td> <td>Jenson Button</td> <td>McLaren-Mercedes</td> <td>1’15.327</td> <td>0.885</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>16</td> <td>16</td> <td>Daniel Ricciardo</td> <td>Toro Rosso-Ferrari</td> <td>1’15.498</td> <td>1.056</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>17</td> <td>21</td> <td>Vitaly Petrov</td> <td>Caterham-Renault</td> <td>1’16.268</td> <td>1.826</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>18</td> <td>20</td> <td>Heikki Kovalainen</td> <td>Caterham-Renault</td> <td>1’16.545</td> <td>2.103</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>19</td> <td>22</td> <td>Pedro de la Rosa</td> <td>HRT-Cosworth</td> <td>1’17.705</td> <td>3.263</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>20</td> <td>24</td> <td>Timo Glock</td> <td>Marussia-Cosworth</td> <td>1’17.974</td> <td>3.532</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>21</td> <td>23</td> <td>Narain Karthikeyan</td> <td>HRT-Cosworth</td> <td>1’18.189</td> <td>3.747</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>22</td> <td>25</td> <td>Charles Pic</td> <td>Marussia-Cosworth</td> <td>1’18.684</td> <td>4.242</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>23</td> <td>17</td> <td>Jean-Eric Vergne</td> <td>Toro Rosso-Ferrari</td> <td>No time</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>24</td> <td>8</td> <td>Nico Rosberg</td> <td>Mercedes</td> <td>No time</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>




Keys to the race will be pit stops. I wish they showed the actual times during the race; not the overall time. They say RedBull is fastest but Alonso's crew are no slackers!

Ferrari Fernando Alonso Fastest Pits stop F1 - YouTube

Red Bull leads the way on the fastest average pit stop across the season, but they have some stiff competition from Mercedes in particular and it is a point of contention for the Red Bull crew, directed by Jonathan Wheatley, that Mercedes has set a faster time this year for all four wheels changed; 2.82 seconds in China.

F1 PIT STOP LEAGUE TABLE, Average stop time behind fastest
1. Red Bull
2. Mercedes – 0.13sec
3. McLaren – 0.25sec
4. Ferrari – 0.55sec
5. Force India – 0.67sec
6. Lotus – 0.9sec
7. Renault – 0.91sec
8. Sauber – 1 sec
9. Williams – 1.15sec
10. Toro Rosso – 1.24sec
11. Virgin – 1.84sec
12. HRT – 3.33sec
What will Qualifying bring? The rush continues.... What a great season so far!!!

Edit: Hamilton seemed surprised @ his 2nd place and if Vettel blocks into turn one Alonso has the confidence to go around the outside setting up inside for turn 2.

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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Damn Q3 was close.....one stop strategy for Sunday
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Why does Fox have the race broadcast? I don't get it. It's just cherry picking as far as I can see. Fox cares nothing of F1 or it's fans. And if you are like me, Fox pisses me off.
Part of the contract with Speed getting it... had to be on Free to Air for 5 races to help promote the sport apparently.

Should be a good race tomorrow.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Weird

...OK ...And if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his butt every time he jumped....WEIRD article ...you could say this about six different drivers...why did they pick him

Michael Schumacher could have been on track for his eighth world championship in 2012.

He may be carrying the number 7 on his Mercedes this year, but luck has abandoned the great 43-year-old German in the third and possibly final year of his F1 comeback, Bild newspaper reports.

"It sounds funny," Schumacher admitted. "I have only two points, but it is my best year with Mercedes."

The newspaper’s analysis claims Schumacher could in fact be leading the 2012 championship after the first six races.

The analysis said Schumacher lost 15 points in Australia with gearbox trouble, and 11 points in Malaysia due to the clash with Romain Grosjean.

In China he lost 18 points due to a lose wheel, 7 points in Bahrain due to a DRS rear wing problem, and 4 points in Spain in the crash with Bruno Senna.

In Monaco, he scored his first pole for over 2000 days, but had to go back five places on the grid before a fuel pressure problem struck in the race.

That might have cost him the win and 25 points, Bild claimed.

"An interesting calculation," Schumacher commented when confronted with the analysis.

"I am realistic and I know that I can no longer fight for this world title, but I can still fight for wins," he said.

Schumacher’s 1997 title rival Jacques Villeneuve, appearing as a pundit for British television this weekend, admitted to being impressed by his old foe in 2012.

"It’s impressive how he always fights back after all the bad luck. I would not begrudge him victory in Montreal," said the French Canadian at the circuit named after his legendary father Gilles Villeneuve.

Schumacher qualified ninth for Sunday’s Canadian grand prix.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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Schumacher qualified ninth for Sunday’s Canadian grand prix.
Team error... Shut down his final qualifying lap; may or may not have produced a higher position.

Should be a good race tomorrow.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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This raced sucked
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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All bets are off this season.... The drop-off in tire performance is radical with these Pirelli's and it was painful to see Alonso basically defenseless in the final laps.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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It is a damned shame when tire management determines who wins.

We saw Kimmi experience the same kind of disappointment (which race?) when his tires went off and car after car were passing him. Like Alonzo today, what a horrible feeling for him [and Tim and I,] to see those he had put behind him go buzzing past with no way to hold his position.

I am hating the Pirelli tires. I can understand a gradual degradation but the way these tires fall off is inexcusable. This whole thing of putting everyone on the same tires is a loser. Maybe they can't get a supplier without assuring them a contract for the whole lot, for the whole season? If that's the case, forget special tires. Who supplies Indy cars? And other racing series... Just find something that is easily available that is safe enough for over 200mph driving, that can last for two freaking hours!!!
And forget the BS rules about having to run two different compounds, that sounds like a private deal that profits Bernie. It never made any sense, let the teams decide what is best for their cars.

And regarding that article quoted above, be it know that I could have been on track for my TENTH world title if................. Add enough "if's" and anything could have happened.
 
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And forget the BS rules about having to run two different compounds, that sounds like a private deal that profits Bernie. It never made any sense, let the teams decide what is best for their cars.
That was something that Bridgestone introduced when Michelin dropped out in the mid 2000's and they became the only tire supplier... the idea was to still have the commentators talking about tires (i.e. still some promotional value)


I agree that it sucked to see Alonso going backwards, he deserved better... abd I agree that the "artificial" nature of the tire degradation doesn't really fit to my liking of F1, but those tires have helped orchestrate the best season I can ever remember, and with viewing audiences through the roof, I don't think Bernie is too concerned with it.
 
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That's right. There is too much that Bernie is not concerned with.

All in all, I thought it was a great race.
 
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Question. When these tires performance drops off is the car still within the 107% rule? I would think that should be a concern....


Pirelli: Tyre degradation 'an opportunity, not a problem'

Pirelli, however, has hit back at the comments, insisting that its brief from the FIA was to design deliberately aggressive compounds that would deteriorate quicker during races than last year's more durable Bridgestones did, as a means by which to boost overtaking possibilities and spice up the spectacle.

'The increased degradation is a feature specifically requested by the teams and the organizers to improve the show,' read a statement from the under-fire Italian marque. 'This is an opportunity for the sport, not a problem. What must be said is that we have not run with optimum conditions in the official winter testing, both in terms of temperatures too low and the track conditions.
From the complete article March 2011:Pirelli: Tyre degradation 'an opportunity, not a problem'

All of which is the governing body "f'n" with the teams ability to strive for what is best for them to achieve what it is all about..... Winning races!

Remember when when it was the "best of the best"? Innovation? Now Red Bull has a hole in their axle.... Banned! I'm surprised they haven't banned helmet color change during the season; it does lead to performance enchantment; attitude enchantment?

One car, matchbox. One track, downhill plastic. Bernie pushing it off from many different world locations. Now that's racing....

FIA should govern safety. Teams the performance.... Ok let's race! end rant.
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Good rant.

At least, the teams should be allowed to reject the official tire and run one of their own choosing that they feel would be to their best advantage.

Screw rev limiters!!!
 
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Looks like we might get a qualifying tire for next year...I would love that...all on the same and no need to try and save tire get out an run...
 
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Qualifying tires would be a good step towards not having to "save sets" for the race; turning less laps/time on Saturday. I still think at 2 manufactures to choose from would best for the sport.

Meanwhile......

Reported F1 Salaries *

01. Fernando Alonso €30 million (30million British pounds = 46.59 million U.S. dollars)...
02. Lewis Hamilton €16 million
= Jenson Button €16 million
04. Sebastian Vettel €10 million
= Mark Webber €10 million
= Felipe Massa €10 million
= Nico Rosberg €10 million
08. Michael Schumacher €8 million
09. Kimi Raikkonen €5 million
10. Heikki Kovalainen €4 million
11. Timo Glock €3 million
12. Kamui Kobayashi €1 million
= Romain Grosjean €1 million
14. Nico Hulkenberg €500,000
= Sergio Perez €500,000
= Vitaly Petrov €500,000
= Pedro de la Rosa €500,000
18. Jean-Eric Vergne €400,000
= Daniel Ricciardo €400,000
= Pastor Maldonado €400,000
21. Bruno Senna €250,000
= Nairan Karthikeyan €250,000
23. Paul di Resta €200,000
24. Charles Pic €150,000
 
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