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Aug 15, 2012 | 10:57 PM

#496

BigF350

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You are right on the exhausts. I think all the big teams are still trying to chase the rear down force they lost by not having blown-diffusers, and I don't think any of them have found a solution they are happy with yet.

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Right, but F1 has so many variables that it defies statistical analysis.

yeah, don't they say, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.

It also looks like from the "Average starting position of race winners by season" that those that have won that weren't on pole have come from much further back in the pack to do it.

Aug 17, 2012 | 06:33 AM

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IB Tim

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2000/2004 where the dominate years for Ferrari and Michael
Constructor was 1999-2008 consecutively....I am still looking for pole position by teams through the years...cannot find it yet

I wonder if those high years (above 50%) would show the top teams ...both drivers sat on the front row...more often then not...would account for more of the wins, we know team orders are real back then

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Aug 18, 2012 | 06:25 AM

#498

IB Tim

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I'm just saying time is running down

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FINALLY

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Aug 18, 2012 | 07:05 AM

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I'm just saying time is running down

FINALLY

Yay !

I've jonesing for some Formula 1 racing. 12 more days...

Aug 20, 2012 | 05:18 AM

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1982 was both beautiful, technologically changing and from a drivers protection point of view ...scary..the MP4...a very very fast car...notice Ron Dennis helping to lift on the nose .

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Aug 20, 2012 | 05:24 AM

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More form 82 for you veiwing pleaseusre

Got to love that era

Notice the black and white...that is in the pits a Hockenheim Germany 1982...there is not even breathing room in the crowd

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Aug 20, 2012 | 06:22 AM

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Great pics.

That turbo is huge... when you think it's a 1.5l engine...

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1982 was both beautiful, technologically changing and from a drivers protection point of view ...scary..the MP4...a very very fast car...notice Ron Dennis helping to lift on the nose .

His hair has changed...

Aug 20, 2012 | 12:33 PM

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I guess it takes a large turbo to keep up with the rpm the achieve.

Notice the lack of driver protection in front!!

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Aug 25, 2012 | 01:07 PM

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IB Tim

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The side and frontal impact had to be huge .....very very scary.

During the turbo era..it was reported BMW had a qualifying motor that 1675HP ..yeegaz

Aug 25, 2012 | 05:01 PM

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Must have been around 1.5 hp per pound! I have had cars with six pounds per hp but hell, that must have felt like a rocket!

Aug 27, 2012 | 10:39 AM

#506

OldStyle

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Great stuff Thanks! Count-down is nearing completion.... Soon F1 will be back on track! Till then....

Here's a couple from days past. Can't imagine spectators on the track nowadays.

Legends of Motorsport- 1961 Belgian Grand Prix - YouTube

1970 Belgian Grand Prix - YouTube

Ayrton Senna leading Belgian Grand Prix 1985 - YouTube

1990 Belgian Grand prix race star chaos! - YouTube

Formula 1 - The Magic of Spa-Francorchamps. - YouTube

Lap Around Spa Francorchamps - YouTube

Not F1 but Dammm.

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August 27, 2012

If you ever were wondering why pit crew members started wearing helmets, here is exhibit A.
During a practice run at Zandvoort in Germany on Friday, Ralf Schumacher was pulling out of pit road when his spoiler caught an air hose, dragged it, and clotheslined members of another pit crew. The video is surreal, as it shows the crew members hitting the ground from an almost ghost-like force.

Danger lurks everywhere.... Glad no one was seriously injured!

Zandvoort 2012 DTM accident pit lane - YouTube!

Aug 29, 2012 | 03:15 PM

#507

IB Tim

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Those are cool...you have got to love SPA ...no if my red cars could finally get a win there...Alonso seem to be snake bit when it comes to the top of the podium at Spa

Aug 29, 2012 | 03:44 PM

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Those are cool...you have got to love SPA ...no if my red cars could finally get a win there...Alonso seem to be snake bit when it comes to the top of the podium at Spa

This has been a unique year. And Alonso has been making the best of it.

I don't remember a year with so many "in season" tech developments. Maybe Ferrari will have found some key changes during the break.

Good luck to Masa as well.

Aug 31, 2012 | 05:47 AM

#509

OldStyle

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P1 was WET! O-rouge is treacherous in the rain..... It was in German so judging by the smoke it looks like Massa lost an engine before completing 1 lap. I tuned in late but Alonso only did an installation lap.

Two hours till P2! In English so I will understand commentary! The season is BACK baby!!!!!

A cloud burst just before the start of the 90-minute first practice session, and a torrential downpour just minutes into the action.

Practice 1 results:
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Aug 31, 2012 | 06:50 AM

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IB Tim

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Eau-rouge ...dry and what a daunting corner...click on make it larger it really give you some thought at what it would be to take it flat out and climb up that bit

then the pits and WET

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