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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 03:09 PM
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Okay, 2021 F350 6.7L DRW 8 FT BED 33k on it. Truck sits in my drive with a big truck camper on it. I use it to haul a 5500lb boat every week in season to the local ramp and back and 1600 mile trip to the Keys for 5 - 6 months every winter. After all these pages of reading I have one question. Should I put the truck on a weight loss program?

There are 47,000 reasons not to. It's a risk only you can decide if you want to take it. Depending on where you live, it only takes one Karen to make your life miserable. It's why I don't have plans for it, too many Karens around here.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by augam
Okay, 2021 F350 6.7L DRW 8 FT BED 33k on it. Truck sits in my drive with a big truck camper on it. I use it to haul a 5500lb boat every week in season to the local ramp and back and 1600 mile trip to the Keys for 5 - 6 months every winter. After all these pages of reading I have one question. Should I put the truck on a weight loss program?
If you are still considering an extended warranty on your truck I wouldn't do the weigh loss. Otherwise, go for it!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
There are 47,000 reasons not to. It's a risk only you can decide if you want to take it. Depending on where you live, it only takes one Karen to make your life miserable. It's why I don't have plans for it, too many Karens around here.
Any other reasons than the local Karens? Also could they tell by the exhaust?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 08:03 PM
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Any other reasons than the local Karens? Also could they tell by the exhaust?
Yes... for most folks, probably not but anyone who knows modern day diesel pickups don't smoke or supposed to smell, it's easy to pick up on. Very easy...

Plus the guys who throw the big tips on that become black or if the exhaust isn't stock... easy to spot as well as smell, plus deleted are louder. Find a LEO who has a **** er for deleted trucks, you're having a bad day.

All that said, here in the state of Cali of the east in Western New York, there's deleted trucks all over. So it doesn't stop all truck owners from deleting...
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
Yes... for most folks, probably not but anyone who knows modern day diesel pickups don't smoke or supposed to smell, it's easy to pick up on. Very easy...

Plus the guys who throw the big tips on that become black or if the exhaust isn't stock... easy to spot as well as smell, plus deleted are louder. Find a LEO who has a **** er for deleted trucks, you're having a bad day.

All that said, here in the state of Cali of the east in Western New York, there's deleted trucks all over. So it doesn't stop all truck owners from deleting...
Yeah that is kind of what I was thinking. I think the only place I may worry would be in a National Park. Heard someone say it before but if you run into a park official who wants to make it an issue you will be leaving the park without the truck. Again I do not know if that is true but it would give me pause when stopping at the gate idling and perhaps someone picking up on it.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by augam
Yeah that is kind of what I was thinking. I think the only place I may worry would be in a National Park. Heard someone say it before but if you run into a park official who wants to make it an issue you will be leaving the park without the truck. Again I do not know if that is true but it would give me pause when stopping at the gate idling and perhaps someone picking up on it.
Yeah I wouldn't miss around in a National Park... our DEC Officers here have zero senses of humor, so I'd imagine those Fed Park coppers would pee themselves to make a day bad for a deleted truck owner in a National Park... but not that I would know as I have no experience with that...
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by augam
Any other reasons than the local Karens? Also could they tell by the exhaust?
i added a muffler to mine. now it sounds like a pre emissions diesel. quiet, but not quiet like stock. and with the stock tune, if you hit the throttle when youre in low rpm's a puff of smoke will 100% come out. again very similar to pre emissions diesels.


all that to say, you can also tell when a gasser mashes the throttle, it might smoke, and you definitely smell that fuel. but nobody cares cause its a gas car.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 06:10 AM
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diesels are not emissions tested here in the great state of Marylandstand. But if you use your truck commercially and are subject to DOT inspections then you will have to leave it stock.

I have no issues with the emissions systems and the fuel mileage is probably just as good if it were to be deleted, with the except of the regen process which is not that often.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
Yes... for most folks, probably not but anyone who knows modern day diesel pickups don't smoke or supposed to smell, it's easy to pick up on. Very easy...
Plus the guys who throw the big tips on that become black or if the exhaust isn't stock... easy to spot as well as smell, plus deleted are louder. Find a LEO who has a **** er for deleted trucks, you're having a bad day.
All that said, here in the state of Cali of the east in Western New York, there's deleted trucks all over. So it doesn't stop all truck owners from deleting...
One thing I regretted was not re-installing the original muffler tips that came with my truck. Other than that it rarely smokes, it smells slightly but only if I'm idling for very long (which I wouldn't do in town), and it's definitely not loud since I installed a good size muffler.
You can easily delete the emission off of your truck and do so without drawing attention.
If a person is going to hold onto their truck long term or pulls a trailer often I would definitely look at deleting. Just don't invest the money to delete for fuel savings.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
diesels are not emissions tested here in the great state of Marylandstand. But if you use your truck commercially and are subject to DOT inspections then you will have to leave it stock.

I have no issues with the emissions systems and the fuel mileage is probably just as good if it were to be deleted, with the except of the regen process which is not that often.
How many miles did you put on your 6.7L before buying the 2020? I don't know how many horror stories I've read of owners putting DEF into their fuel tank or vice versa.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:00 AM
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Diesel newbie here. The thought of having to replace that DPF at anytime in the future and potential emission gremlins has me giving it more thought. Also not dealing with DEF anymore would be a huge plus. Are these modern day diesels pretty reliable emission wise after the weight loss?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:00 AM
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Yes my brother has a F-150 EcoBoost with a tune and it smokes worse than my truck. Smoke happens, especially with direct injection. Doesn't always mean something is wrong and shouldn't be a red flag necessarily.

For our diesels, it just completely depends on where you live in the U.S. Here in KY, most are deleted. Business trucks with full graphics wraps showing company name and number, personal trucks, trucks driven by politicians and LEOs, it doesn't matter. You're more likely to see a deleted truck than a stock truck. Why? Because everybody here knows that they can't afford expensive repairs and can't afford to replace trucks every 3 years. Need to keep these things running well 24/7/365.

I also noticed that our neighbor to the south, TN, recently stopped emissions testing.

If I lived in a liberal state like CA or NY would I delete? He11 no. But then again I'd never live in a liberal state. We've actually got a crazy thing here with people moving to KY and TN from the western U.S. They are coming in droves. U-haul trucks rolling in every week. My newest neighbors came here from AZ. They said they just got sick and tired of the "lack of freedom" and wanted their kids to have a better life.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tradosaurus
One thing I regretted was not re-installing the original muffler tips that came with my truck. Other than that it rarely smokes, it smells slightly but only if I'm idling for very long (which I wouldn't do in town), and it's definitely not loud since I installed a good size muffler.
You can easily delete the emission off of your truck and do so without drawing attention. If a person is going to hold onto their truck long term or pulls a trailer often I would definitely look at deleting. Just don't invest the money to delete for fuel savings.
When I first bought my 16, my first diesel, I researched into the truck emissions, fuel and other things. I read the horror stories so started looking into deleting. But truthfully, I'm having zero issues with my truck at almost 126k miles. South of the city it's hilly so the engine works some to get it hot, 18 miles one way to work so truck gets fully hot every day, I monitor and complete almost all of my regens, so for the time being... I have zero plans to delete.

I've never been against deleting but it's the irresponsible owners who use fuel rich tunes, blow black smoke and drive like chuckleheads, which lots do anyways, but having the government tell people what they cannot do their own vehicles is crazy IMO. But now that the Supreme Court shot down the Chevron ruling, let's see what happens. But with that said, that doesn't mean that guys with race tunes should have free reign on the public highways.

My EGR cooler core, the first gen design with tubes and fins, was just replaced.... I'm going to remove those new EGR feed tube bolts and try Planet Safe Lubricants Extreme Duty oil on the bolts, been emailing the owner back and forth, to prevent them from seizing up for the next replacement, which I'd probably spend the money and get Bullet Proof Diesel's EGR core. I've also had Speed of Air Technologies pistons on my radar as well... I saw a 2014 6.7 owner who went out to 820 miles before his regen with the new engine with SOA tech in it. So truthfully, I'd never delete for fuel mileage "savings..." my truck is a keeper, driven everyday and has no problems. No payments so I will not fret about having to put money into a truck that's just flat out running well... as long as I keep the rust at bay living here. Have to finish the right side rocker panel as there's minor rust forming. She's probably more than likely going to stay stock...



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How many miles did you put on your 6.7L before buying the 2020? I don't know how many horror stories I've read of owners putting DEF into their fuel tank or vice versa.
Scott's 2013 F350 dually we called the "Unicorn." His truck was unique in that he was always working it and she would regen very rarely... I know he drives a ton but I'll let him answer directly.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
Yes my brother has a F-150 EcoBoost with a tune and it smokes worse than my truck. Smoke happens, especially with direct injection. Doesn't always mean something is wrong and shouldn't be a red flag necessarily.

For our diesels, it just completely depends on where you live in the U.S. Here in KY, most are deleted. Business trucks with full graphics wraps showing company name and number, personal trucks, trucks driven by politicians and LEOs, it doesn't matter. You're more likely to see a deleted truck than a stock truck. Why? Because everybody here knows that they can't afford expensive repairs and can't afford to replace trucks every 3 years. Need to keep these things running well 24/7/365.

I also noticed that our neighbor to the south, TN, recently stopped emissions testing.

If I lived in a liberal state like CA or NY would I delete? He11 no. But then again I'd never live in a liberal state. We've actually got a crazy thing here with people moving to KY and TN from the western U.S. They are coming in droves. U-haul trucks rolling in every week. My newest neighbors came here from AZ. They said they just got sick and tired of the "lack of freedom" and wanted their kids to have a better life.
Just keep in mind, not all people who live in a "liberal state" are liberal... I want to squash that rumor right now... BTW, there's lots of deleted trucks here... tons of support for Trump too... but I digress...

You'd be surprised by myself and my group of friends... I'd even bet you'd have one helluva conversation with us...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
When I first bought my 16, my first diesel, I researched into the truck emissions, fuel and other things. I read the horror stories so started looking into deleting. But truthfully, I'm having zero issues with my truck at almost 126k miles. South of the city it's hilly so the engine works some to get it hot, 18 miles one way to work so truck gets fully hot every day, I monitor and complete almost all of my regens, so for the time being... I have zero plans to delete.

I've never been against deleting but it's the irresponsible owners who use fuel rich tunes, blow black smoke and drive like chuckleheads, which lots do anyways, but having the government tell people what they cannot do their own vehicles is crazy IMO. But now that the Supreme Court shot down the Chevron ruling, let's see what happens. But with that said, that doesn't mean that guys with race tunes should have free reign on the public highways.

My EGR cooler core, the first gen design with tubes and fins, was just replaced.... I'm going to remove those new EGR feed tube bolts and try Planet Safe Lubricants Extreme Duty oil on the bolts, been emailing the owner back and forth, to prevent them from seizing up for the next replacement, which I'd probably spend the money and get Bullet Proof Diesel's EGR core. I've also had Speed of Air Technologies pistons on my radar as well... I saw a 2014 6.7 owner who went out to 820 miles before his regen with the new engine with SOA tech in it. So truthfully, I'd never delete for fuel mileage "savings..." my truck is a keeper, driven everyday and has no problems. No payments so I will not fret about having to put money into a truck that's just flat out running well... as long as I keep the rust at bay living here. Have to finish the right side rocker panel as there's minor rust forming. She's probably more than likely going to stay stock...





Scott's 2013 F350 dually we called the "Unicorn." His truck was unique in that he was always working it and she would regen very rarely... I know he drives a ton but I'll let him answer directly.
I have the XL version 6.7L 2021. I don't see a gauge that tells me where I am at in this regen thing. Is there a way I can do this as well?

Is there a history of the regens?
 
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