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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
I was thinking...can you jack it up on the frame and see how far they extend?
If what we've been saying about the current shocks being too short is true then I won't be able to see the full extension. These shocks will bottom out and hold the suspension up. I will go try and see what I find anyway.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
If what we've been saying about the current shocks being too short is true then I won't be able to see the full extension. These shocks will bottom out and hold the suspension up. I will go try and see what I find anyway.
Yeah, I had similar afterthoughts. You'd probably have to remove one of the shock bolts.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:31 PM
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Okay so, jacking on the frame revealed that the shock does have plenty more travel. After jacking the frame up until the tire was off the ground, from bolt to bolt the front shock was 23 in and some change. So that tells me I do have aftermarket shocks. I measured how tall the lift was just out of curiosity. The front bracket from old bolt to new bolt is 3 in on the dot. The rear bracket however, has three and a half inches from the old mounting spot to the new mounting spot. I think it's safe to say it's a 3-in lift like all of you said. That being said, the 0-2 1/2 inch shocks go to 23 in and change. I still feel that is too short because that is exactly how far I got of travel just jacking on the frame. If you hit a bump it Could go higher than that I would think. I still think I should get the 4-6 in lift shocks. They have the capacity to go up to 26 in which would give me plenty of expanding room if I hit a good size bump. Of course I could be wrong on this. I've never messed with shocks. It just seems to me that when you hit a bump the suspension could travel higher than the 23 in that jacking on the frame reveals. What do you guys think? Am I wrong?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Logically, you sound good but I am not familiar with shock travel distances so don't blame me if we're wrong.
Of course not. After everything it still comes down to my decision. So no matter what decision I make it will inevitably be my fault if it is wrong
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
Of course not. After everything it still comes down to my decision. So no matter what decision I make it will inevitably be my fault if it is wrong
You're looking at it bassackward...it will be your fault if you're right!

And the only way your wheels will travel further down is if your frame drops down on something like a boulder and your wheels are still in the air. At that point, the shocks really don't much matter.

Sounds to me like the shocks on there are long enough. They don't support the weight of the vehicle, they only control how fast the axle moves up and down.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:57 PM
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You're looking at it bassackward...it will be your fault if you're right!

And the only way your wheels will travel further down is if your frame drops down on something like a boulder and your wheels are still in the air. At that point, the shocks really don't much matter.

Sounds to me like the shocks on there are long enough. They don't support the weight of the vehicle, they only control how fast the axle moves up and down.
So basically, whatever distance the suspension extends from jacking on the frame, is as far as it will extend? In that case the shocks I have are long enough. If I wanted to be really sure, I could take take the shock off and then Jack the frame up again and see how far apart the two bolts are with no shock on it. If it ends up further, then the shock is bottoming out. Thanks for the info! I also found a loose bolt! Maybe that's my clunking noise. The driver side front leaf spring mount bolt is loose. Ironically, this is the one and only bolt out of all the leaf spring mounts I didn't check. I forgot what happened or why I didn't check. But regardless, it is loose. Maybe that is my clunking noise!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
So basically, whatever distance the suspension extends from jacking on the frame, is as far as it will extend? In that case the shocks I have are long enough. If I wanted to be really sure, I could take take the shock off and then Jack the frame up again and see how far apart the two bolts are with no shock on it. If it ends up further, then the shock is bottoming out. Thanks for the info! I also found a loose bolt! Maybe that's my clunking noise. The driver side front leaf spring mount bolt is loose. Ironically, this is the one and only bolt out of all the leaf spring mounts I didn't check. I forgot what happened or why I didn't check. But regardless, it is loose. Maybe that is my clunking noise!
Yeah, you would have to be airborne for it to be that high...and when your vehicle lands it isn't like in the movies. Things break! When I was your age I had to tell my dad I did that to his car. One side sat higher than the other, the clutch didn't work right, the transmission mounts were nearly torn in two and there were scratches on the gas tank.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:08 PM
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So actually according to summit racing, the shocks on my truck currently(found the part# on the shock) are only supposed to extend to 22.875. they are currently extending to 23 inches plus. So it's safe to assume that they are topping out and are making noise. Now I need to remove the shock and see how far my shock bolts are apart after jacking up the frame. Getting closer!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by runningman777
Yeah, you would have to be airborne for it to be that high...and when your vehicle lands it isn't like in the movies. Things break! When I was your age I had to tell my dad I did that to his car. One side sat higher than the other, the clutch didn't work right, the transmission mounts were nearly torn in two and there were scratches on the gas tank.
Now I get it! How about I keep it on the road!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 07:11 AM
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I don't like the hotwheel truck look...
I'd find a set of excursion wheels(dig that style) and wrap a set of 285/75/16 and call it a day.
...having a big wheel with little side wall, one day out 4-wheeling and you'll taco that rim
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 07:43 AM
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Fox shocks are expensive but they perform extremely well and are rebuildable. These should be the correct length.
https://www.shocksurplus.com/product...32323144876081

If you are really worried about overextending the shocks while taking the truck over some sweet jumps, you can always add some limit straps.

 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:24 AM
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I don't like the hotwheel truck look...
I'd find a set of excursion wheels(dig that style) and wrap a set of 285/75/16 and call it a day.
...having a big wheel with little side wall, one day out 4-wheeling and you'll taco that rim
I'm a little confused at what you were getting at about the Hot wheel and the big wheel and little sidewall. That last truck picture above was not my truck. I was just showing that truck for the lift that it had as compared to mine. These are my current wheels and I'm going to get some 285's for it. I hate rubber band tires myself.

 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:33 AM
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Fox shocks are expensive but they perform extremely well and are rebuildable. These should be rhe correct length.
https://www.shocksurplus.com/product...32323144876081

If you are really worried about overextending the shocks while taking the truck over some sweet jumps, you can always add some limit straps.

You had the fronts right! I think the rears are wrong though. I need the 0-1 inch shock i think. My truck with just the weight of the truck on it is sitting at 24 in on the rear shock. So the 0-1 inch shock ranging from 18-29 in should do the trick. The other shock that you showed ranges from 20-32. I think I would need that extra 2 in on the bottom side right? I could be wrong about that. No disrespect intended!

I have not taken it over any sweet jumps yet! Man those things are pricey! I will consider this option! Thank you!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
You had the fronts right! I think the rears are wrong though. I need the 0-1 inch shock i think. My truck with just the weight of the truck on it is sitting at 24 in on the rear shock. So the 0-1 inch shock ranging from 18-29 in should do the trick. The other shock that you showed ranges from 20-32. I think I would need that extra 2 in on the bottom side right? I could be wrong about that. No disrespect intended!

I have not taken it over any sweet jumps yet! Man those things are pricey! I will consider this option! Thank you!
No offense taken! This is definitely a measure-twice-buy-and-install-once kind of situation.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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It is critical that compressed shock length is not too long. While not ideal if shocks limit extension, they WILL see full compression and too long of a shock will likely fail.
 
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