Yes indeed. We offer both the OEM 6.4 filter and the aftermarket 6.4 filter. We also offer the toilet paper filter, the OE 6.4 pan, and various aluminum deep pans. Lastly, I suppose, we also offer the external transmission filter kit from DieselSite (a pretty sweet setup that I run on my truck, FWIW).

I agree that opinions are largely and barely worth the paper they are written on, but I do tend to take sources into account when forming an opinion. No offense to people named Bob, but Bob's opinion from down the street who hates Fords because of something he once read in an online forum doesn't hold the weight of folks who live and breathe transmissions and rebuild them every day (as an example). Of course, this is why we offer all of the options - so folks can make their own choices!

For that matter, if someone really wanted it, we also offer the OE 6.0 pan and the OE 6.0 in-pan filter. Of course, I'd try to talk them out of going that path, but it is their money and we still live in a free country. It may sound crass (and I certainly hope not), but I figure that if someone is going to spend their money somewhere, it frankly might as well be with me especially as I pretty well always have the ability to offer the lowest price point on what they DO want.

It *would* be nice to see published values on some of these things from the manufacturers, but we sadly don't have that data available. We are stuck doing the best we can with what we DO have.

What remains uncontested is that migrating to a pleated filtration solution from ANY of the manufacturers listed in this thread is far better than sticking with the OE screen alone.

 

Clearly you don't know. The newer internal filter provides finer filtration that the external filter. I know you don't believe it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's true.

 

Somebody's going to get a PM ...... .

 

And dang, we didn't even get into the finned aluminum pan's superior rigidity that will keep the trans case from cracking or that it lowers trans oil temps...

Where's the fun of it anymore...?!

 

I thought I kept you entertained.

 

I have no data on whether or not the aluminum pan adds to the transmission's rigidity. If I have no data I don't make a challenge.

No pan is going to cool the transmission. That's not it's function, and I've laid out my reasons on this forum many, many times. These reasons are backed by actual testing.

 

Scott knows that. He's just looking for something more entertaining then reality TV.

 

Entertained!? Crap man, some times you make me work!

Thanks Mark, you know we appreciate it when someone has a need and you jump in. It was first for me anyway, seeing that claim about the pan acting as a truss to the case, with, what were those pan bolt torque specs?!

I'm just in a silly mood tonight, so don't take me seriously...

 

I've heard that claim many times. I have no data nor experience to say if it is true or false.

 

That's something that I'm going to have to look up, Mark. I don't doubt you, but just from looking at the media, it seems difficult to believe. I am perfectly fine to be wrong on this. When I am wrong on something, I learned something that day.

 

I can't sweat the small stuff, Jack. LOL

 

As I stated above, I just swapped to the 08 pan and internal filter, OE right from Ford. I am also running the OE bypass filter up front. Both were just changed recently. I did a complete flush getting it hot and pumping and blowing it out a total of about 12 Qts.
So with what your saying, in 15,000 miles my front bypass filter will be spotless clean showing NO grey particulates or any other debris because the 08 filter in the pan is catching it ALL.
I don't know, but I doubt it. So I guess in a few months when I spin it off we will find out.
Also think about the flow of the ATF. The bypass up front is filtering the fluid before it's returned to the pan. So technically it should catch contamination before it gets to the new 08 filter, extending the change interval of the pan filter.
I still say run the tp roll.

 

Please point out where I said that. I don't remember saying anything that stupid.

Debris is generated after the fluid goes through the internal filter. The external filter will catch some of that. When the trans is warmer than 165°F 10% of the flow to the cooler (not all the flow from the pump goes through the cooler) goes through the external filter. When the trans is cooler than 165°F this flow is cut by 90%. I don't see any downside to keeping the external filter, but I don't see a lot of upside once the internal filter is upgraded.

 

You were quoted in post 41 and based on post 47 anyone reading these posts will interpret your comments to not run the TP roll up front (like TooManyToys).

My point is, if the bypass filter does anything (which we both know it does), why would you omit it? Simply, you shouldn't. And like Ed recommended too, I'm using it.

 

I see a downside to keeping the external; all the tranny fluid dripping off of it. I replaced that element last fall, put on a new o-ring, and tightened the snot out of it. Didn't take long before it was coated in fluid and grime.

Is it possible to remove the external completely without changing or hindering flow patterns or flow rate? I ask because I've been thinking about replacing it with a full flow (as in no bypass) spin-on type filter.