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Old 09-02-2016, 10:29 AM
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What about the gasket and part #?
I'm guessing it's F6TZ-7A191-A ?

Currently in hopes that I won't need to buy one.
 
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Originally Posted by Benchwrench
What about the gasket and part #?
I'm guessing it's F6TZ-7A191-A ?

Currently in hopes that I won't need to buy one.
Manufacturer: Ford
Part Number: F6TZ-7A191-A
Part: GASKET
Part Notes: AUTO TRANS
 
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Using a straight edge or level, measure from the deepest part of the sump up to the mounting flange.
Old is 4.75"
New 08 pan is 5.00"
Really, only 1/4"?
Almost want to see if I could trim the top of the filter to insert it 1/4" further up and use the stock pan?

Then again, probably not a good idea to play there!

Temptation!
 
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Really, only 1/4"?
Almost want to see if I could trim the top of the filter to insert it 1/4" further up and use the stock pan?

Then again, probably not a good idea to play there!

Temptation!
I believe the deeper pan is to accommodate the new, thicker, filter. You can try but I think you'll find out the stock pan flange won't mate the Trans because of the filter being squished between the pan and valve body.
 
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by r2millers
Really, only 1/4"?
Almost want to see if I could trim the top of the filter to insert it 1/4" further up and use the stock pan?

Then again, probably not a good idea to play there!

Temptation!
Had some discussions on this back in '13 when I first posted my thread on the change -- one fellow did metal-working and wanted to re-form the old pan to fit. Unless he added metal it wouldn't work.

Bob: to answer your Q directly: the new filter is also wider than the old, so you'd need to raise it up even higher, which I wouldn't risk. Hey, some smart guys like Mark engineered this, it is a package and is cheap as it is, and works on our trucks (thanks Ford ).

Here is a link again to the measurements and visual of the two pans:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13413683
 
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
Had some discussions on this back in '13 when I first posted my thread on the change -- one fellow did metal-working and wanted to re-form the old pan to fit. Unless he added metal it wouldn't work.

Bob: to answer your Q directly: the new filter is also wider than the old, so you'd need to raise it up even higher, which I wouldn't risk. Hey, some smart guys like Mark engineered this, it is a package and is cheap as it is, and works on our trucks (thanks Ford ).

Here is a link again to the measurements and visual of the two pans:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13413683
I think I remember that. I thought he was going to cut the pan and weld in a drop section.
 
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:58 PM
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I think I remember that. I thought he was going to cut the pan and weld in a drop section.
I can't remember where we ended up, other than I do recall he wanted to just pound out the stamping to fit the new shape required...

Some things you want to save a buck on. And some things aren't worth your time to figure out how to do it cheaper. I learned that lesson on the DIY coolant filter: sold all the parts I had gathered at less than half what I'd paid, because in the end, the XDP kit was complete and about the same price, but designed for instant install; and well thought out...
 
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
Bob: to answer your Q directly: the new filter is also wider than the old, so you'd need to raise it up even higher, which I wouldn't risk. Hey, some smart guys like Mark engineered this, it is a package and is cheap as it is, and works on our trucks (thanks Ford ).83[/URL]
Ya Dan,
First thought was to save a buck, second was to rethink the process and again...save a buck by Not screwing this up and Mac Givering it the wrong way!
 
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Ya Dan,
First thought was to save a buck, second was to rethink the process and again...save a buck by Not screwing this up and Mac Givering it the wrong way!
Sir: you are an RVer, MacGivering is what gets us down the Road (and you know what I mean, and the 6.0 is just a TINY part of it )
 
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Guess I won't be changing the pan in the driveway on Sunday ....


 
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Sir: you are an RVer, MacGivering is what gets us down the Road (and you know what I mean, and the 6.0 is just a TINY part of it )
Thanks Dan. Yep, my dad grew up in central Minnesota where you didn't get er fixed if you didn't do it yourself!
Learned from a young age how to tear a toaster to V8 apart when work was necessary.
Amazing when you run into people who "can't" fix a thing.
You know, that four letter word our parent's wouldn't let us say.
 
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Jack stay safe and dry.
Also I hear from Mark K that getting water in the trans is
not good for the adhesives that hold the clutch materials on.



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Just for sh**s and giggles, I called two local Ford dealers for pricing on 6.4 pan, filter, gasket: $89.58, $85.47, and $46.37 respectively. They don't call 'em stealer-ships for nothing!

Must have heard about the upgrade party over here.
 
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Jack stay safe and dry.
Also I hear from Mark K that getting water in the trans is
not good for the adhesives that hold the clutch materials on.



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Water in a Trans isn't good for anything, period.
 
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Originally Posted by Fuzzpuss
Just for sh**s and giggles, I called two local Ford dealers for pricing on 6.4 pan, filter, gasket: $89.58, $85.47, and $46.37 respectively. They don't call 'em stealer-ships for nothing!

Must have heard about the upgrade party over here.
Easy there.... some good people in those places.
 


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